Concerning CF server cost... I wonder, however, since many "cutting edge" developers tend to be college students who have no money and are out to see what they can do, how CF would compete if it were free or at least less expensive... I don't think the "kids" would purposefully use a less-intuitive language just for the fun of it. Thost "kids" who can afford PHP and ASP in college and grow used to it become the developers who sway organizations to use those languages instead of CF when it comes time for them to develop for profit and for a company.
Perhaps Adobe should consider a version which lacks advanced features to offer for free...that would give students something to play with, learn from, and grow comfortable with. And give small business (especially single developers) a start with the server, begin to make money, then invest in more advanced versions. I see software vendors doing this all the time. And I don't think charging for CF server is unreasonable. I think it's perfectly normal for it to cost money. I make money from it... (I do think the upgrade prices are too high...50%...to much... way abovethe norm for the range of products I use, which tend to be non-enterprise and *part* of the reason I'm still using 4.5.2, and happily so...I know it, understand it, and it does all I need to do at this point.) Rick > -----Original Message----- > From: Josh Nathanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 2:56 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Flex 2 and Ben Forta > > > +1 for Tom Harris. Seems like software is the only industry where people > expect free products. Since CF is presumably making us all money > in one way > or another it's only fair that Adobe should also make money on > the product. > Flex has huge potential to create a better end user experience, thus > ultimately making us developers more money and so easily > justifies the price > tag. > > I was amazed when I got into CF and found out the developer > edition is free. > Since I use shared hosting, CF is essentially free for me. I > would gladly > pay some kind of a subscription or up front fee to use developer > edition if > it was imposed and it seemed reasonable. To me the reason CF has > been slow > to catch on is not because it isn't free, but because of crusty C++ and > Windows guys who think PHP or ASP is the greatest thing since > sliced bread > (my boss is one of those guys). Also some programmers (no one on > this list > obviously) tend to be stubborn and unwilling to learn new technologies. > > -- Josh > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:28 AM > Subject: RE: Flex 2 and Ben Forta > > > > Regarding the anticipated pricing of FlexBuilder: What is it with all > > you people who think everything should be free? Are cars and houses > > free? Are bread and milk free? Do you work for free? If you think > > everything should be free, then you need to stop billing your clients > > for work, or stop accepting paychecks from your employer. Or maybe it's > > that YOU get to charge money for YOUR services, but you shouldn't have > > to pay anyone else for their services... is that it? Maybe some day, in > > some bright and shining utopian wonderland, everything will be free. In > > the meantime, do those of you who constantly bitch about everything > > costing money know ANYTHING about BUSINESS at all? I cannot believe > > that someone on this list actually said they think CF should be free! > > > > As far as FlexBuilder goes, I think $2000 would still be a bargain. > > > > As someone once said, "If you can't run with the big dogs, then stay on > > the porch!" Or, if you can't afford to buy good tools, there are always > > the free ones. But quit complaining that good tools cost money -- they > > always have and they always will. > > > > I just needed to vent. The best to you all. > > > > Tom Harris > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:233983 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
