What would you "strip out" of Fusebox? If you look at FB4.1 there isn't any
"crap" that I know of. It's a couple XML files, and the core-files.

Greg

On 3/6/06, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Depends what framework.
> The best thing is to take the bits you like and roll your own.
> I don't like the OO frameworks like Model-Glue as they take something
> simple
> (a web site) and make it extremely complicated.
> Fusebox can be good if you strip out all the crap.
>
> Russ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 06 March 2006 18:29
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: OOP, why me?
>
> Gareth,
>
> I'm in the same boat you are.  Especially after reading a blog entry by a
> prominent figure in the CF community, where the complaint was given that
> simple changes to a framework based site were /not/ simple.  You had to
> modify a few different files just to make a simple change.  Kind of goes
> against the "makes modifications easier" argument.
>
> The biggest reasons I see for using frameworks are:
> -code reuse
> -flexibility
> -maintainability
> -documented code
>
> I can make my applications adhere to the above principles, /without/ using
> a
> framework.  However, I'm eagerly awaiting any responses from the framework
> crowd, as I'm still sitting on the fence.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gareth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:40 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: OOP, why me?
> >
> > I'm the sort of person who likes to understand why I'm doing something
> > rather than just do it. If I download a UDF I analyse it and try to
> > learn rather than just stick it into my app and smile because it's
> > worked. With that in mind, I wonder if someone could explain to me in
> > super simple, beginer speak, layman terms what Object Oriented
> > Programming means in terms of CF and why I should use it?
> >
> > My very basic understanding is that you have different 'layers' to
> > perform different tasks, so when someone visits mygroovyform.cfm the
> > processing behind the form is not done on the form page itself but
> > passed to another page which then passes back the results. The back
> > end processing is then done using components (cfc's).
> >
> > I know that's a very simplified explanation but hopefully it's true in
> > principle. I've written a few very simple CFC's more for the sake of
> > it than because I understood the need. The main arguments I've heard
> > for using this approach is that it's good for code re-use and promotes
> > clean coding. But what I can't get my head around is why? I mean, code
> > isn't necessarily unclean because it's not built using this approach
> > and can't code just as easily be reused using a cfmodule or even a
> > cfinclude? I've also heard it's good in a multi-developer environment,
> > but I'm only me so perhaps there isn't a practical reason for me to
> > learn it at all?
> >
> > I've read a lot on the subject and I'd like to read more but it's
> > difficult to enthuse myself without understanding what the real end
> > benefit is.
> >
> > <scratches_head>Model glue, mach ii, fusebox, etc. I'm sure there's a
> > bloody good reason for 'em but what is it?</scratches_head>
> >
> > Words of wisdom / good reading (including book recommendations) most
> > appreciated.
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