Well last time I used it, there were all these core files for determining what version of CF was running, which I thought was totally pointless, as most people code for a specific version of CF and I haven't seen any FB app where the developer has written different code depending which version of CF is running, so it wa sonly FB itself that made any use of it. I also found it a mare to debug, as the errors didn't tell where they were actually ocurrring, and you had to spend ages trying to figure out what file actually caused the error and trace back the execution order. FB is great for FB developers who use it day in and day out, but for someone who has never used FB, it is not developer friendly. But saying that, I have seen many people us etheir own simplified implementations of fB that were much better.
Russ -----Original Message----- From: Greg Luce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 March 2006 21:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OOP, why me? What would you "strip out" of Fusebox? If you look at FB4.1 there isn't any "crap" that I know of. It's a couple XML files, and the core-files. Greg On 3/6/06, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Depends what framework. > The best thing is to take the bits you like and roll your own. > I don't like the OO frameworks like Model-Glue as they take something > simple (a web site) and make it extremely complicated. > Fusebox can be good if you strip out all the crap. > > Russ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 06 March 2006 18:29 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: OOP, why me? > > Gareth, > > I'm in the same boat you are. Especially after reading a blog entry > by a prominent figure in the CF community, where the complaint was > given that simple changes to a framework based site were /not/ simple. > You had to modify a few different files just to make a simple change. > Kind of goes against the "makes modifications easier" argument. > > The biggest reasons I see for using frameworks are: > -code reuse > -flexibility > -maintainability > -documented code > > I can make my applications adhere to the above principles, /without/ > using a framework. However, I'm eagerly awaiting any responses from > the framework crowd, as I'm still sitting on the fence. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gareth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:40 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: OOP, why me? > > > > I'm the sort of person who likes to understand why I'm doing > > something rather than just do it. If I download a UDF I analyse it > > and try to learn rather than just stick it into my app and smile > > because it's worked. With that in mind, I wonder if someone could > > explain to me in super simple, beginer speak, layman terms what > > Object Oriented Programming means in terms of CF and why I should use it? > > > > My very basic understanding is that you have different 'layers' to > > perform different tasks, so when someone visits mygroovyform.cfm the > > processing behind the form is not done on the form page itself but > > passed to another page which then passes back the results. The back > > end processing is then done using components (cfc's). > > > > I know that's a very simplified explanation but hopefully it's true > > in principle. I've written a few very simple CFC's more for the sake > > of it than because I understood the need. The main arguments I've > > heard for using this approach is that it's good for code re-use and > > promotes clean coding. But what I can't get my head around is why? I > > mean, code isn't necessarily unclean because it's not built using > > this approach and can't code just as easily be reused using a > > cfmodule or even a cfinclude? I've also heard it's good in a > > multi-developer environment, but I'm only me so perhaps there isn't > > a practical reason for me to learn it at all? > > > > I've read a lot on the subject and I'd like to read more but it's > > difficult to enthuse myself without understanding what the real end > > benefit is. > > > > <scratches_head>Model glue, mach ii, fusebox, etc. I'm sure there's > > a bloody good reason for 'em but what is it?</scratches_head> > > > > Words of wisdom / good reading (including book recommendations) most > > appreciated. > > This transmission may contain information that is privileged, > confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If > you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any > disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained > herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you > received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the > sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic > or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234333 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
