That's it you blaspheming frood, you're off to the Frogstar and into the 
Total Perspective Vortex!

You know, I tried to get into an evaluation of RoR, but from the initial 
setup to building a couple of apps, it just felt off somehow. It may be 
great, but it's one of those things, similar to JSP that I just didn't 
enjoy learning about. It seemed like a lot of extra work to anything 
custom at all and I kept commenting on how simple it would be to do 
whatever I was trying to do if I was doing it with CF. It's an unfair 
and very biased assessment no doubt, but I just didn't enjoy it at all.

--Ferg

Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
> I thought that same way until I really got into creating some applications
> with it.  To me it's unbelievable how much stuff is available in that
> framework.  I think where most people get hung up is on comparing Rails to
> CF.  Rails is a framework that provides a lot of functionality for you.
> Ruby, the underlying language would be the comparison to CF.  In my opinion,
> Ruby comes out stronger because it's not only a web app language, it's
> available straight from the command prompt if you like.  Plus, it's not
> stuck in the middle like CF is, in that CF is a loosely typed language built
> on top of a strictly typed language which causes some pain.  Ruby is built
> ground up as an object language for which each object has standard methods
> of to_i, to_s, etc.
>
> One thing I will say is that in learning Rails, my CF programming quality
> has definitely increased.  Heck even my javascript programming quality has
> increased.
>
> On 4/19/06, Bryan Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Basically with Ruby it comes down to this (in my short investigation of
>> it....I
>> stopped because it is NOT the Holy Grail)....
>>
>> It does lots of stuff for you...right up until it needs to something
>> different
>> then the default...then you are right back writing custom code to make
>> your
>> "something different" work.
>>
>> So IMHO unless you are writing VERY simple interfaces and data
>> interactions, you
>> might as well just write your code from scratch (or your own wonderful
>> code
>> libraries etc).
>>
>> So no...RoR does not make coding magically simple, but it does make simple
>> coding magic ;-)
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
>> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
>> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
>> phone: 250.480.0642
>> fax: 250.480.1264
>> cell: 250.920.8830
>> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> web: www.electricedgesystems.com
>>
>>
>>
>>     
>
> 

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