Don't make me read Vogon poetry to you! I can totally understand. At first I was like "where in the hell are my application variables?" and I realized later that the structure of programming is way different. And as for feeling off.....that's kinda the way I feel about ASP.net 2.0. It looks really killer in demos, but when it comes down to creating stuff with it, well.....I just didn't like the feel.
On 4/19/06, Ken Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's it you blaspheming frood, you're off to the Frogstar and into the > Total Perspective Vortex! > > You know, I tried to get into an evaluation of RoR, but from the initial > setup to building a couple of apps, it just felt off somehow. It may be > great, but it's one of those things, similar to JSP that I just didn't > enjoy learning about. It seemed like a lot of extra work to anything > custom at all and I kept commenting on how simple it would be to do > whatever I was trying to do if I was doing it with CF. It's an unfair > and very biased assessment no doubt, but I just didn't enjoy it at all. > > --Ferg > > Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > I thought that same way until I really got into creating some > applications > > with it. To me it's unbelievable how much stuff is available in that > > framework. I think where most people get hung up is on comparing Rails > to > > CF. Rails is a framework that provides a lot of functionality for you. > > Ruby, the underlying language would be the comparison to CF. In my > opinion, > > Ruby comes out stronger because it's not only a web app language, it's > > available straight from the command prompt if you like. Plus, it's not > > stuck in the middle like CF is, in that CF is a loosely typed language > built > > on top of a strictly typed language which causes some pain. Ruby is > built > > ground up as an object language for which each object has standard > methods > > of to_i, to_s, etc. > > > > One thing I will say is that in learning Rails, my CF programming > quality > > has definitely increased. Heck even my javascript programming quality > has > > increased. > > > > On 4/19/06, Bryan Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Basically with Ruby it comes down to this (in my short investigation of > >> it....I > >> stopped because it is NOT the Holy Grail).... > >> > >> It does lots of stuff for you...right up until it needs to something > >> different > >> then the default...then you are right back writing custom code to make > >> your > >> "something different" work. > >> > >> So IMHO unless you are writing VERY simple interfaces and data > >> interactions, you > >> might as well just write your code from scratch (or your own wonderful > >> code > >> libraries etc). > >> > >> So no...RoR does not make coding magically simple, but it does make > simple > >> coding magic ;-) > >> > >> HTH > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > >> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > >> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > >> phone: 250.480.0642 > >> fax: 250.480.1264 > >> cell: 250.920.8830 > >> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> web: www.electricedgesystems.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:238166 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
