Thanks Mike, but I was looking for a bit more granular detail - I know that the 
page request resets the inactivity timer.  But that occurs at the beginning of 
the page processing - I'm more concerned about what happens after that point in 
order to keep the session active. Is CF keeping the session active *during* the 
page processing, regardless of whether there is any actual interaction with the 
session scope?  That's really the crux of my question.

>Every .cfm page request, regardless of session variable usage, within a
>given application, resets that particular session's timeout counter.
>
>CF's session management is related to the session cookies (cfid/cftoken
>or the J2EE session) that are automatically set, by ColdFusion.  You do
>not need to create your own session variables to continue the session.
>
>CFDUMP the session and cookie scopes once you have enabled session
>management and you will see what is created.  Then, try a few things,
>like deleting the cookies, closing the browser, and you will see how CF
>handles the session management.
>
>M!ke
>
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>Subject: What determines session inactivity timeouts?
>
>What started out as a simple exercise has gone crazy.  All I wanted to
>do was to give my users a warning of impending session timouts and give
>them the opportunity to refresh the session.  I tried using the
><CF_SessionWatch> tag but it's a bit too simplistic - I used it to setup
>a JS call to set a timer for a few minutes less than the session timeout
>value, but if the user takes longer to respond (maybe they walked away
>from their PC) than the remaining session timeout, then when the user
>comes back and clicks on the "yea I want to keep working" option, the
>resulting  attempt to touch a page in the app (to reset the session
>timeout) ends up causing the login page to come up (since by then the
>session vars have timed out), so now the user is real confused (because
>he has his original page, as well as a login page in the pop-up window).
>
>So, I added a bit more JS so that when the warning pop-up comes up, it
>first sets a timer for about a minute less than the amount of remaining
>session var time, and if *that* timer fires, then I log the user off and
>force the opener page to go back to the home page, and do a
>window.close() to get rid of the pop-up window.
>
>Sounds fine, right?  Here's my concern - what if the page that is
>executing takes longer to execute than the session timeout value?  Our
>server is set for 1 hour max timeout, and some of the data loading
>screens can take longer than that to run, especially when the CF or SQL
>server is loaded.  I don't want to have it whacked in the middle of it's
>work by the session timeout checker.
>
>So this leads to my initial question, which I've never thought about
>before even though I've been using session vars for years and years -
>what exactly constitutes "inactivity" in CF's perspective?  What if a
>long running page doesn't touch any session vars for a period of time
>greater than the session var timeout?  Is session "activity" defined by
>a request being active, or by the actual touching of a session-scoped
>var? Do I need to have potential long-running pages periodically touch a
>session var?
>
>I thought about moving the code for setting up the JS timers from the
>application.cfm file to orequestend.cfm, which wouldn't start up the
>timers until the page actually completes, but then that has a bunch of
>problems with respect to errors and <CFABORT>.
>
>Am I making this harder than I need to?
>
>thanks
>Reed

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