Hi Denny,
I guess us commercial, non-power CF'ers with the wrong mindset will just
stick with other tools then. Hey Dave, Snake & Ferg, how does it feel to
be part of "commercial, non-power CF'ers, designers/coder wannabes with
the wrong mindset" group? I'm feeling pretty damn good.
Rey...
Denny Valliant wrote:
> As for the rest, Ferg, you are probably better off with a tool like
> DW or (maybe) HS/CFStud.
>
> I don't think CFE needs converts, if you ask me. There's plenty
> to do already, and more people with the wrong mindset won't
> help the flow of chi, or whatnot.
>
> Mostly these[1] are attempts at "heads up" to the CF users out
> there, if you ask me. 'Specially for "power CFers".
>
> The mindset is just plain different from HS, DW, CFStu. tho,
> and I'd hate to see people with the wrong idea get involved.
>
> ICFE is currently aimed more at coders than "designers", if'n'
> you're a WYSIWYG designer, stick with DW/whatnot.
>
> And CFE is has some rough edges, which is why people
> with the commercial mindset worry me. CFE coders don't
> make money off of selling CFE. Chocolate or beer goes
> further than complaints to management, or whatever.
>
> [1]the posts about how cool CFE is. It's not better, just different,
> and the way of the future (but that's besides the point ;).
> :denster
>
> On 6/5/06, Ken Ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>1. OK, I don't personally find this particularly useful, but cool. I
>>have always wondered why HS color codes sql in a .sql file, but not in a
>>..cfm file. I mean, it colors js css in cfm files.
>>2. Very cool indeed. I like that quite a lot.
>>3. Sounds cool - that might be nice.
>>4. Don't think I'd find that very useful.
>>5. Doesn't everyone keep test.cfm in the dev root for this anyway?
>>6. HS has these as well and I think the HS code templates are at least
>>as good as CFE's snippets.
>>7. Neat?
>>8. This is one thing I really do like in CFE - this is really great.
>>9. Cool.
>>10. Once again, cool, but I don't think I really care too much.
>>
>>As for help, I think I actually like the CFE livedocs access better the
>>way it is now. I can't remember the last time I used the built-in help
>>files even though the ld's are slow on a scale that's almost geologic.
>>
>>--Ferg
>>
>>
>>Munson, Jacob wrote:
>>
>>>>Actually, and I'm not being a smartass when I say this, I'd very much
>>>>like for you to tell me some of the features CFE has over HS that are
>>>>worthwhile.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I haven't used HS for quite a while, so correct me if any of these are
>>>there as well. But Here are a few things I like about CFE, besides what
>>>I've already mentioned.
>>>
>>>1. SQL code highlighting
>>>2. Todo list--Just add <---! Todo:{your todo title} ---> anywhere in
>>>your code and you get a new todo item in the todo view. If you click
>>>this item later from the todo panel it will open up the correct file and
>>>drop you down to the correct spot on the page.
>>>3. Version control--Eclipse has basic version control built-in. Do you
>>>need to go back after a few hours of coding? No problem, just find the
>>>correct version from the history and restore it
>>>4. Working sets--group similar files into a set for later use, which
>>>makes it easier to interface with them later (all other files are
>>>hidden)
>>>5. Scratch pad--if you need to quickly test some code, hit F11 (or
>>>whatever you map it to) which loads a cfm file, then view the results in
>>>the internal browser
>>>6. Snippets--You can have complex code snippets at your fingertips,
>>>just hit a shortcut and it will drop the code in. It will even ask you
>>>for parameters (Ex. a query name)
>>>7. There is a plugin that lets you view the CF logs right from the CFE
>>>IDE
>>>8. There is an Outline and a Methods view that gives you quick easy
>>>access to your document structure, where you can click and jump to the
>>>right section
>>>9. It's open source--community driven, rapid support and quick
>>>releases, and it costs $0
>>>10. Adobe now supports CFEclipse as the standard CFML editor for coders
>>>(not designers). In fact, did you know that Sean Cornfield is the
>>>project manager for CFE?
>>>
>>>Again, if you know that HS does any of the above, feel free to correct
>>>me. I know it does snippets, but I'm not sure if they are as powerful
>>>as CFE.
>>>
>>>Also, someone mentioned that HS has inline documentation, and Adobe is
>>>putting this into CFE soon (Actually I think it's going to come from
>>>Flex, but it's supposed to cover CF).
>>>
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