I guess while you asked and everyone is responding, Go ahead and remove my
name from your directory as well, (If it is in there). I prefer also to
pick and choose who or what I associate with.
Thank You in Advance
Larry Juncker
Senior Cold Fusion Programmer
Heartland Communications Group, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Tillman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 4:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Developer Directory?
However, if you send a reply email stating that any further mail will be
assessed a "reading fee" and that further email is acceptance of the
contract,
it should hold up anywhere in the Us under contract law.
This is based on a rudimentary knowledge of contract law, and has, to my
knowledge, not been tested.
might be fun though
On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Chapman, Katrina spake thusly:
> Actually you're both wrong.
>
> The bill reads
>
> "Under the bill, California electronic mail service providers may publish
a
> notice forbidding the use of their equipment to send or deliver spam. They
> may sue anyone who violates this for $50 per message up to $25,000 per day
> in which the spamming takes place, or actual damages. Attorneys' fees are
> also recoverable."
>
> That means that you're ISP get's the money not the end user.
>
> Also, according to m-w.com spam is "unsolicited usually commercial E-mail
> sent to a large number of addresses". That means any message that you
send
> me that i didn't explicitly ask for is spam as long as you send it to
> several differen't people at once. And, yes, doing loop so that only one
> address goes out at a time is still spam.
>
> If I'm on the list remove me please.
>
> --K
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 1:44 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Developer Directory?
> >
> >
> > Only if you opted never to receive a mailing from our Company
> > is that law
> > applicable. ... We get our names from Internet related
> > companies that have
> > strict privacy policies that only give us names of those who
> > are internet
> > development related and want other information... FYI all
> > outbound emails
> > have a opt out completely link and we send that through XML
> > to the partner
> > who gave it to us... That way 2 birds with one stone... The
> > business we have
> > built is the prism of incorporation to individuals who want
> > to focus on
> > their own technologies. Not learning and keeping up with every type of
> > technology. This conclusively makes each persons experience
> > rise in worth.
> > The purpose of the Original posting was to open valid conversation
> > concerning opt in procedures... Is preferences enough? I think that no
> > matter what solution the FTC and the Senate decides, it will be one of
> > solidarity... But to be clear if it happened continually to a
> > recipient
> > who's ISP resides in CA; the fee is only $50.
> >
> > http://seclab.cs.ucdavis.edu/~zerkle/ab1629/
> >
> > -brian
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Ed Toon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:33 PM
> > Subject: RE: Developer Directory?
> >
> >
> > > So you're building a business off of this list? Great. Go ahead and
> > include
> > > me, but be aware that according to California law I can and
> > will charge
> > you
> > > $500 per email. :P
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Brian bouldernet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 1:00 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: Developer Directory?
> > >
> > >
> > > All great things are realized great until the "flack" is at
> > it's worst....
> > > Most Recently.
> > > Napster, NetAppliance, WAP, Cicso, NDS..
> > >
> > >
> > > We'll see guys... I promise no spam... Our group came from a email
> > marketing
> > > company we sold out to double click. optinemail.com...
> > >
> > > We inatied the AOL hell thread because of the way AOL reparses
> > doublequoted
> > > links in all email so they have exclusive linking in emails.
> > >
> > > Our goal. To be directory for other developers doing there
> > own thing to
> > > focus on their expertise.. Cold Fusion, Spectra whatever.
> > The lets say a
> > > flash developer need function.... There you go....
> > >
> > > Later,
> > > Talk to you later...
> > > -brian
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:02 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Developer Directory?
> > >
> > >
> > > > I think there's one active already. I've got one in beta
> > at FA but it
> > > isn't
> > > > up yet.
> > > > Personally, I feel that the approach your taking is not
> > the best as many
> > > > feel like they're being dragged into something they
> > didn't want to be
> > part
> > > > of. Posting a request to a public place and saying for
> > people to come
> > > visit
> > > > is one thing, but scanning their email addresses and then
> > emailing them
> > > > directly to do so doesn't feel right. Someone else did
> > something very
> > > > similar and got a LOT of flack for it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > We've created a directory of about 1200 developers from
> > talk graoups,
> > > > > confrences, and what not, does anyone see any major
> > issues emailing
> > > > everyone
> > > > > to ask to modify a profile we have setup and make live
> > on a site that
> > > > rates
> > > > > each one based on customer satisifaction and developer
> > strengths like
> > > > > Spectra, CF, Database skills. All on a opt in procedure
> > currently.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are there any existing directories?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Brian
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
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