I'll respectfully and strongly disagree on the frames issue, although they certainly DO add a layer of complexity to your work. It is wonderfully liberating to be able to simply click on one thing and have two or three other screen elements change to match with whatever it is you are working on. This is a technique I would ONLY use in an intranet environment where, for example, you know in advance that everyone has a certain minimum resolution.
I built AMPro's user management screen to this standard. Formerly you used the more common single-screen-per-element approach, and to get a job done you moved from screen to screen to screen. All you have to do is use that approach for a little while and graduate to a simple, long-existing html standard that is often overlooked. http://mysecretbase.com/ul/ampro_users.gif I have also done administrative back ends for intranets this way and the usability improvement is enormous. For example a customer record is in four columns across the top 1/4 of the screen (in a single frame), the activity records and internal audit screens are split in a couple of small panels underneath that. Diary entries are shown in another little window etc. A complete snapshot of the customer's current status and recent events in a single glance. Is a little window too little? Drag it over a bit if you must. HTML frames do that (but try to design the thing so that is never necessary). Again, this does not work in an environment where you cannot count on a certain screen setup 1024x768 is workable. 1280x1024 is optimal. Anything more is gravy. You will have to take care in your programming to specify targets. If you want to refresh the entire screen, for example, a link will have to post to the frame controlling template at "_top", which will then do its thing and filter display changes down to the individual frames. If you have a form post, be sure to use the target parameter. Stuff like that. Once you get used to it the added steps aren't noticeable. HtH, -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Janitor, MSB Web Systems mysecretbase.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:247136 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4

