Not at all, I think debugging is only a good thing but you have to see that CFMAL does exactly what it should do at present - and it DOES tell you if an email fails (both in logs and in the mail message itself moved to the undeliv folder), but maybe not just in shared environment?
I could see that in a shared environment that you may be able to tell if an email has failed though on an owned environment you can simply look into the maillogs / undeliverable folder to see why an email failed. I am not familiar with how shared environments work so maybe there is a way it can be done? Snake etc are v.familiar with this so maybe he can input. Surely Adobe know this and have workarounds? Maybe you can look into using the JavaMail API to see why an email failed - have a look to see what it available to you (assuming you have createObject capability in that hosting) "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -----Original Message----- From: Mike Kear To: CF-Talk Sent: Sat Jul 29 13:42:08 2006 Subject: Re: CF 8 feature survey So my point remains .... I dont care which part of the system tells me what's wrong as long as SOMETHING does. At the moment, the only indication you have that there's something wrong with your mail is the fact that it hasnt arrived. Or is is that your email has actually worked ok but just not arrived yet? One thing that could happens is Peter TIlbrook's idea - have the Undelivr folder (or it's equivaient) configurable in the code, perhaps in the CFMAIL tag - maybe a underliverto="" attribute. Then at least there would be one thing you could look at to see why the email didnt work. It doesnt cover all cases by any means but it does cover some, and thats a step in the right direction. I didnt mention your silly <cfmail></cfmail> example, because these days with tag completion and code hinting I have very few of that kind of syntax error. I'd never try to put that in a page because my IDE wouldnt let me without warning. Neil, you dont seem to think there is a need fo have any debugging of CFMAIL. I'm not sure why. Perhaps you never make errors. Perhaps you never use CFMAIL in a shared hosting environment where you have no access to any system level folders. Perhaps you love spending 5 times longer building a simple cfmail app than any other part of your system. I dont know . but i think there are lots of people who find CFMAIL a devil of a functionality to build unless it's very stock-standard and basic. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On 7/29/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmmm so, <CFMAIL></CFMAIL> doesn't fail? (no To etc). I can understand it > not erroring if you have a bad username/passord or server name/IP as > ColdFusion is not technically in the loop at that part of the process. > > ColdFusion literally just writes the email out (assuming you have correct > tag syntax) and it is the SMTP server which will say yay or nay to JavaMail > inside ColdFusion. It is not in control and should never be in control of > this process. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:248128 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
