By 0 to 60 I am referring to the learning curve. Backbase has a steep one. Exactly on the pricing. If they had reasonable pricing for not just large corp's, they might have a better adoption because it is very robust.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 9:49 AM Subject: Re: Ajax - Whats everybody using? > Yep, I have used it extentively and I love it. You described it to a tee. > It > is an application framework not a library in the sense of other listings. > It > is a Flex HTML rival. It is not aiming to be an plug n play js library. > > What is all this nonsense about 0 to 60? :-) > > It's debugging is amazing, it has all the features you can think of, but > again, as you rightly note it is expensive. But as they noted, large > companies such as ours do not care about 5K :-) > > If money is not your concern and you want to build an RIA app, not just an > Ajax tool then it should be considered. > > > > > > > > > > > > "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, > Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, > Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is > confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of > the > intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please > note > that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the > information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have > received this communication in error please return it to the sender or > call > our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within > this > communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." > Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: John C. Bland II > To: CF-Talk > Sent: Thu Aug 31 17:12:39 2006 > Subject: Re: Ajax - Whats everybody using? > > Neil, Backbase is more robust, I'll give it that, but have you used it. > Speaking specifically about 0 to 60, Backbase is horrible. It takes you > completely away from your normal way of handling xhtml and attempts to > provide MXML/XAML functionality. The things it can do are pretty > amazing/great but their implementation simply isn't desireable AND the > price > > is ridiculous.When I spoke to them about it the reps answer was (in my > words; it has been some months since I spoke to them) "the big companies > don't mind the price." We went round and round but ultimately he said to > wait a few weeks for an announcement regarding the community edition. > Anyways, Backbase forces you to change your entire infrastructure and base > it around them. For Ajax, that isn't desireable. > > I doubt Tom is using Spry because it is free. Spry is a great tool and 0 > to > 60, as I said, it is #1 in my book. Most ajax toolkits are free and those > that cost, to me, aren't worth it. You can grab a DHTML library and > something like JSMX and rival Backbase, or others, any day. > > Disclaimer: > That is all IMO. :-) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:55 AM > Subject: RE: Ajax - Whats everybody using? > > >> That only cause it is free? I would say Backbase is better than Spry but >> it >> is pricey >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 31 August 2006 11:36 >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: Re: Ajax - Whats everybody using? >> >> On Thursday 31 August 2006 05:21, Rey Bango wrote: >>> For those doing Ajax work in conjunction with CF, I'd like to know what >>> framework(s) you're using. >> >> Flex2 :-) >> More seriously, if I were doing a DHTML project I'd pick Spry. >> >> -- >> >> Tom Chiverton >> Helping to autoschediastically initiate fifth-generation metrics >> >> **************************************************** >> >> This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. >> >> Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England >> and >> Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is >> at >> St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. 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