On 9/8/06, Dave Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > no worries, plus i have no idea what ur talking bout anyways lol > > and I have spent my $$ on dw and i like it just fine, my concern is that > everything really seems to be going towards eclipse so I wanna get comfy > with it, plus I like it! except for good css support & an easy ftp that > works right its a pretty sweet ide. > > and i understand that most of the ppl that use it mostly just write code > with 50 other ppl around you so I can see the whole ant thing.
not neccessarily. A few folks on my team use it and we work fairly independently most of the time on our own projects and never touch Ant. These are applications though, not websites. Now add Flex Builder in and well Eclipse is certainly the NKOB. I'm with Denny on this one, get a CMS solution together and let those clients own their content! :) DK but it needs to be versitile as well and you wouldnt think a simple ftp > would be all that hard, fuck microsoft did it (im sure they bought out some > small company to do it for them but still). > > and if someone actually makes a decent one I have no problem making a > donation or wishlist item or whatever as several ppl can atest to. > > > > > On 9/7/06, Dave Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ant seems cool... if you are like Will and only have 1 or 2 sites to > > manage. > > > > > > But when you got dozens or hundreds of sites its not so fun anymore. > > > > > > You did mean to "strike that. reverse it" on the above, right? > > > > If I was working on hundreds of sights (heh), I'd really really love > > something > > like continous integration, or whatnot. ANT and unit tests, load > > whatnoting.. > > > > Now, if you're one of those CF developers who charges by the hour to > > edit HTML > > markup... more power to you, make that easy money, but know that there > > are > > those of us out there who would FAR rather give that responsibility > > right back to > > the person who want's it done. I think we probably don't care too > > much about easy > > money though. Obviously. > > > > Any of the stuff you mention below I have in a database that the > > "client" can modify to their hearts content. > > > > Judging (totally) by the types of stuff you're doing(below), I think > > DW is probably a FAR better tool for you than CFE-- and personally, > > you should spend some of that easy money on it. Or buying the CFE > > heads beers or wishlist type dealies ;-) > > > > Someday I'll retire and do that... charge people $10 every time they > > want to change the price of some item, or re-word a certain span of > > text... make them feel happy about it too. > > > > Someday... > > > > :-) Sorry Dave (if I offended), just playing rough. > > > > :denny > > > > -ps is clipper and dbase the same thing? Hrm... > > > > > > > > Every day i get calls from clients that might want a price changed > > or a typo fixed or a paragraph changed out that might only take a few > > minutes. I really dont want to set up ant and all this nasa crap > > everyone is doing to do a 15 second update. I like were dw u can just > > open it, change it and save it and it saves to server as well. I know > > most of you work on one or two sites all day long but some of us dont. > > If i make a price change i dont need to deploy it to testing server > > and a zillion other ppls archives then load test and all that. > > > > > > Now Sean yells at me and tells me to write my own ftp for it and i > > wish i could but i would rather spend my time making money.(and i > > couldnt anyway lol) > > > > > > I do like cfe but that ftp really sucks, im sure even fp had > > something better than what eclipse has. > > > > > > Even if it only did one file at a time, hell id love that and dw > > would be gone. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252529 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
