On 9/9/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone using the MyEclipse visual designer interface?
Not I. Been meaning to check it out. $32/$52 a year isn't very much, and sounds like an interesting way of selling software. I'm actually more curious about the UML stuff, but since they aren't pushing CF, I doubt there's any code-generation for it. *sniff* Yeah, it's geared for j2ee development (over simp.), wich is usually java. I guess my tirade was delivered to the cfe list, so y'all missed me pining over the ability to run a instance of CF within Eclipse, and get debug access all awesome like. Looks like it's been done now, woot! Wish it were free, but I didn't have time to make it, or the skillz... I did figure out how to launch a instance of JRun from within Eclipse, which is kind of cool sometimes. System.out pops up in the console... Probably wasn't /too/ far from getting nifty stuff going... LOL. There is a HUGE, really cool tie-in possibility when using eclipse. Since it's all java, and CF is really all java, you could theoretically do all sorts of nifty stuff, anything that the RDS plugin does (without the need for RDS), auto-completion/debug within queries is one I'd like to see for CFE... but having to install WTP for that stuff might be over the top, at least for now. But basically, eclipse is a java based IDE, which is built around the "plug-in" mentality. That's really all eclipse is, a bunch of plugins. So MyEclipse comes along and writes plugins that do things that java web people need, CSS, HTML, etc... then they switched to using WTP (Eclipse's own plugins for doing that stuff) for that functionality, I think, and are now focusing on cooler stuff. But yes, as any tool for eclipse, it is a collection of plugins. The core eclipse plugins are in MyEclipse, along with the ones they have designed to do the nifty stuff they do. Same deal for flex builder. It's got the core Eclipse plugins, but they added custom ones for doing flex, etc.. So MyEclipse and Flex Builder are both built on top of a core Eclipse install. They just have specific plugins. Now the tricky part comes in. Since it's all plugins, and the various plugins are actively developed, you can't always just slap in a new plugin to something like MyEclipse or Flex B, since there might be dependencies on specific versions of a plugin. I love paying that price though, because this stuff IS actively developed, and I've /never/ seen commercial software go so far in such a short time. You really get to see the results as they come out, vs. waiting a few years for things to get "stable", which is kind of a joke anyways, from my exp. with software. Plus, if you want something done, you have the power to do it. I've dug on that quite a bit, and actually added some stuff I needed to the plugins that I use. Priceless. Open Source ROX. Sorry to drift, but I hope I gave a only semi-muddled explination of how MyEclipse, and things like it, relate to Eclipse. :-Denny ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252683 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
