Steve,

Let me start by saying I have been with CF since 1996. 

I've recently learned .NET via C# as well. The resemblance of C# to Java is
remarkable which made the learning curve much faster for me. However, I must
agree with you and also add that ASP.NET 2.0 is faster / requires less
hardware to host the same ap. It has built in enterprise session capability
that allows your SQL database to track your session state and much more.

After about 6 months of learning / using .NET, I don't see myself using
ColdFusion as a recommended middleware for large scale sites or clients that
are on a budget. The company that I work for HAD the highest traffic
ColdFusion site on the planet.

Here is a situation similar to mine:
http://members.microsoft.com/CustomerEvidence/Common/FileOpen.aspx?FileName=
10625_ComputerJobs_bizversion_300k.wvx

The thing that I don't agree with that CJ.com said was about the number of
developers it took to maintain the sites pre / post conversion. They must
have had some code org. issues, because that has been the same for us.

Unfortunately, I can see the writing on the wall for CF unless Adobe adopts
a DRAMATIC pricing reduction strategy. Plain and simply put, with .NET and
Mono in the market, CF can no longer increase market share whilst continuing
to maintain / increase their pricing. They're not the only game in town and
they need to start acting like it. 

I pains me to write this publicly about CF. So please no flames. I hate it
just as much as the next CF'er. However, I am relieved that I have finally
learned .NET because the .NET to CF job ratio is about 100:1 at least.
Holding on exclusively to a versus mentality will only hurt yourself in the
end.



--Phil
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Brownlee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 11:19 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF vs. .NET presentations?

I use ASP.NET quite a bit, and while I'd still give CF a slight edge in
development speed, the gap has closed tremendously since the days of
original ASP.  Now that ASP.NET has a top-notch visual designer, there are
times when coding an ASP.NET application can be even faster than CF - given
that the programmers knowledge of both is equal.

Steve Brownlee
http://www.fusioncube.net/

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Kitta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 5:57 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF vs. .NET presentations?
> 
> Is the argument that development in CF is quicker then in .NET still 
> valid - when comparing latest to latest - anyone expert on say Asp.Net 
> ... I just know VB myself,
> 
> TK


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