Steve, Let me start by saying I have been with CF since 1996.
I've recently learned .NET via C# as well. The resemblance of C# to Java is remarkable which made the learning curve much faster for me. However, I must agree with you and also add that ASP.NET 2.0 is faster / requires less hardware to host the same ap. It has built in enterprise session capability that allows your SQL database to track your session state and much more. After about 6 months of learning / using .NET, I don't see myself using ColdFusion as a recommended middleware for large scale sites or clients that are on a budget. The company that I work for HAD the highest traffic ColdFusion site on the planet. Here is a situation similar to mine: http://members.microsoft.com/CustomerEvidence/Common/FileOpen.aspx?FileName= 10625_ComputerJobs_bizversion_300k.wvx The thing that I don't agree with that CJ.com said was about the number of developers it took to maintain the sites pre / post conversion. They must have had some code org. issues, because that has been the same for us. Unfortunately, I can see the writing on the wall for CF unless Adobe adopts a DRAMATIC pricing reduction strategy. Plain and simply put, with .NET and Mono in the market, CF can no longer increase market share whilst continuing to maintain / increase their pricing. They're not the only game in town and they need to start acting like it. I pains me to write this publicly about CF. So please no flames. I hate it just as much as the next CF'er. However, I am relieved that I have finally learned .NET because the .NET to CF job ratio is about 100:1 at least. Holding on exclusively to a versus mentality will only hurt yourself in the end. --Phil ===========> -----Original Message----- From: Steve Brownlee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 11:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF vs. .NET presentations? I use ASP.NET quite a bit, and while I'd still give CF a slight edge in development speed, the gap has closed tremendously since the days of original ASP. Now that ASP.NET has a top-notch visual designer, there are times when coding an ASP.NET application can be even faster than CF - given that the programmers knowledge of both is equal. Steve Brownlee http://www.fusioncube.net/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Kitta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 5:57 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CF vs. .NET presentations? > > Is the argument that development in CF is quicker then in .NET still > valid - when comparing latest to latest - anyone expert on say Asp.Net > ... I just know VB myself, > > TK -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: 9/22/2006 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:254756 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4

