Phillip, I agree with what you say about CF. I pointed out on few occasions the different shortcomings of my favorite web platform, but it looks like people ignore them for most part so I just took a break.
I hope Adobe takeover of MM will improve things and we see these improvements in the next releases. The gap between .Net and CF is now rather small and it is even hard to say which way it goes (I relay on others for in depth .Net). I am also taking some time to learn .Net TK http://www.tomkitta.com -----Original Message----- From: Phillip Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF vs. .NET presentations? Steve, Let me start by saying I have been with CF since 1996. I've recently learned .NET via C# as well. The resemblance of C# to Java is remarkable which made the learning curve much faster for me. However, I must agree with you and also add that ASP.NET 2.0 is faster / requires less hardware to host the same ap. It has built in enterprise session capability that allows your SQL database to track your session state and much more. After about 6 months of learning / using .NET, I don't see myself using ColdFusion as a recommended middleware for large scale sites or clients that are on a budget. The company that I work for HAD the highest traffic ColdFusion site on the planet. Here is a situation similar to mine: http://members.microsoft.com/CustomerEvidence/Common/FileOpen.aspx?FileName= 10625_ComputerJobs_bizversion_300k.wvx The thing that I don't agree with that CJ.com said was about the number of developers it took to maintain the sites pre / post conversion. They must have had some code org. issues, because that has been the same for us. Unfortunately, I can see the writing on the wall for CF unless Adobe adopts a DRAMATIC pricing reduction strategy. Plain and simply put, with .NET and Mono in the market, CF can no longer increase market share whilst continuing to maintain / increase their pricing. They're not the only game in town and they need to start acting like it. I pains me to write this publicly about CF. So please no flames. I hate it just as much as the next CF'er. However, I am relieved that I have finally learned .NET because the .NET to CF job ratio is about 100:1 at least. Holding on exclusively to a versus mentality will only hurt yourself in the end. --Phil ===========> -----Original Message----- From: Steve Brownlee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 11:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF vs. .NET presentations? I use ASP.NET quite a bit, and while I'd still give CF a slight edge in development speed, the gap has closed tremendously since the days of original ASP. Now that ASP.NET has a top-notch visual designer, there are times when coding an ASP.NET application can be even faster than CF - given that the programmers knowledge of both is equal. Steve Brownlee http://www.fusioncube.net/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Kitta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 5:57 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CF vs. .NET presentations? > > Is the argument that development in CF is quicker then in .NET still > valid - when comparing latest to latest - anyone expert on say Asp.Net > ... I just know VB myself, > > TK -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.8/455 - Release Date: 9/22/2006 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:254771 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
