I believe the question being asked here is really:

In a Linux based CF/Java environment with a SQL Server back end, would
it be better to extend our current custom reporting solution in
ColdFusion using CF Reports or is SQL 2005 Reporting Services the better
option.  If SQL 2005 Reporting Services are a better option, we could
off load that functionality and purchase a couple of windows servers (we
run all Linux now) and get .Net up and running for those sections.  Then
we run into questions as to integrating our current security model etc.
But we could head down that road if the SQL solution is that much better
than CF Report.  We were hoping to tap into the collective consciousness
of this list and come up with a better idea without months of research,
case studies and prototypes. 

If anyone has worked with either/both of these services and/or has an
opinion for or against either, we'd appreciate your input.

Thanks!
Christine Davis
ColdFusion Lead
Nations Technical Services
Prairie Village, KS
913-748-8044 ext 4703
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-----Original Message-----
From: Teddy Payne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 12:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: reports reports reports

Brad,
The question here is why do you feel that ColdFusion needs to do the
reporting?  Is the data set ideal for CF?

In the server farm that I work with, we have dozens upon dozens of
database
and multiple data warehouses.

We use the report builder for SQL Server 2000 and it is quick and gets
the
reports to those who need it.  The SQL Server reports also have an
option to
deploy the calculated report to an HTML page, which is a static result
of
the finished compilation.

Now, don't get me wrong here.  I have used CF for 8 years and use it for
the
majority of my solutions, but it is not meant to report everything.

You have to think about CF connecting to the servers you want to run
reports
on as additional network overhead.

You can create static reports in CF as well and can offer lots of pretty
graphing options.  You can go as far as building a Flex Charting
solution as
well for even better results.  I would recommend Flex Charts over CF
Reports
for more options and flexibility.

Now, who is going to build these reports?  Are they asking you to create
the
reports or the DBAs?  Is job security a concern?

Just be objective here and figure out what is the best option instead of
asking if CF should get the oppurtunity.  From what I have seen on the
calculations for some of the larger reports, the SQL report builder is
quicker on the recompilation of a report.  CF is quicker when rendering
aggregated data sets that do not need to recompile the data sets.

Teddy

On 10/3/06, Brad Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm looking for opinions advice here.  My DBA is going nuts over the
SQL
> Server 2005 reporting services.  He wants to replace our current
custom
> built (CF) reporting mechanism with it.  I think ColdFusion report
> builder would be a better option since we are, after all, a ColdFusion
> shop, not .NET.  And not to mention all of our production servers run
> Linux.
>
>
>
> Nice features our company seems to want often in reports is the
ability
> to sort and filter data, add/remove/re-arrange columns from the
report.
> Keep stats on when the report was last run, by whom, and how long it
> took.  Change the server the report runs off of on the fly.
>
>
>
> The problem I have is that I know nothing about the SQL Server 2005
> reporting service, OR the ColdFusion report builder other than they
are
> all free.
>
> A couple of the guys on the database team are already playing around
> with the SQL version and making a collection of cool reports to use in
> their argument for why we should use it.  Before all the pointy-haired
> bosses get sold on that I want to make sure ColdFusion report builder
> gets its fair say.
>
>
>
> Can anyone with experience with one or the other comment on the
> following:
>
>
>
> Which one is faster?
>
> Which one is better?
>
> Which one has more features when it comes to manipulating the data
after
> running the report?
>
> Which one will get my morning coffee and bagel for me?
>
> Which one has the easiest learning curve?
>
>
>
> I anxiously await advice.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> ~Brad
>
>
>
> 



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