Ok... I'm a civil list member and I rarely weigh in on this stuff... And I
have no doubt you will fire back and humiliate me in some way (or try). But
I have to say enough is enough. Come on guys.  Let's tone down the rhetoric
here. You can have an opinion about something without sinking  into
sophistry and flaming it (and by association those who appreciate it). My
dad, the Pentecostal preacher, used to write in his sermon notes "point
weak, pound pulpit here". 

As far as you winning a contract, I'd say you are on the money... At least,
given your general attitude and tone, I wouldn't hire you :) You should keep
in mind that this list is a source of contracts... Not just a place to vent.
And you should also keep in mind that there are folks on the list that love
Fusebox and have made stellar apps with it - and continue to do so. Try
refining your first sentence to something like "I have always found Fusebox
to have too much overhead" or "...I think it's unwieldy".  That might
actually foster dialogue and you might learn something, and others might
learn from you.  As it is, you sound like Mel Gibson's drunker and lesser
known younger brother.

-Mark 

P.S. It's "over-bloated", not "over-blated" ... Unless you are speaking in
old-scots or something.

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 7:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Cf Development Companies

Fusebox, what an over blated piece of shit....

No seriously why does a framework have anything to do with a quote being
won, tell me I use my own framework till I got stuck into MG:U and it has
worked and performed much faster and not as bloated as fusebox is.

So, tell me again why being a fusebox developer would win me a contract? It
shouold boil down to can I deliver on time, will I met the budget set forth,
and will I be able to deliver the product the client needs:-)

Shit, there are times when I know MG:U and MachII aren't upto the job. So
what makes fusebox the be all and end all to determine a job:-)




On 11/4/06, Greg Luce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I was shopping the same thing last year and ended up with WebApper 
> Services (SeeFusion fellas). They nosed out Figleaf, Teratech, and a 
> handful  of others. I was looking for cutting edge Fusebox development 
> though. My 2 main factors were technology and cost. They won on both.
>
> Greg
>
> On 11/2/06, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I know a few of the guys at AboutWeb and wouldn't hesistate to 
> > recommend the company based on my perceptions of their skills.
> >
> > I have no experience with the company itself (as a client, 
> > contractor, employee, or otherwise).  But if the sum of the parts is 
> > greater than the whole, I think you'd be in very good shape.
> >
> > On 11/2/06, Munson, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Who are the top 3 companies that develop ColdFusion on a project 
> > > > basis?
> > >
> > > It depends on way too many things.  What coding styles do you 
> > > prefer (frameworks or not, etc.), if you need project management, 
> > > your
> budget,
> > > where the company is based, timeline, etc.
> > >
> > > This is like the question we see here about once a week, "What 
> > > hosting company do you prefer".  The answer?  It depends.  :)
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