Well put, and the reason the list respects Mr Watts. Nice one.
"This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -----Original Message----- From: Dave Watts To: CF-Talk Sent: Thu Nov 30 22:20:19 2006 Subject: RE: Sean Corfield, it's time to approve my post Adam, I respect the hell out of you, but you're making a tempest in a teapot. You're absolutely right, that at the top level of a large corporation like Adobe (or even Macromedia), the managers don't know or care about product specifics beyond the most rudimentary details. And, frankly, they shouldn't - that's not their job. Bruce Chizen doesn't need to be a CF programmer to do his job. But, at a lower level of the organization, the people who manage that specific product care very much about how they can improve its success, positioning, mindshare, etc. They have to, because that's their job - and if CF fails, they'll lose that job. Your original ACFUG post said: "Among other things, it means that when the time comes (relatively soon), Adobe will most likely wash their hands clean of ColdFusion via the open source route as well, rather than by trying to dump it on another company." Then, in your first post to this thread, you said: "You don't really need (and will probably not have) any substantiated facts at hand when drawing conclusions about future actions a public company might take. All you have is instinct, an understanding of what truly drives public companies, market forces, technology innovations, etc, to guide you. Licking your finger and sticking it in the air to tell which way the wind blows helps, too." Now, you say that you have "a reasoned opinion on a possible future course of action that Adobe might take, and unfortunately I think I may be right." If you go through this whole argument about how we can't divine the actions of top management, why should we trust your divination? Especially when, within your original post to ACFUG, you said this: "But it most likely also signifies that Adobe realizes its Flash-centric development model and tools cannot keep pace with Microsoft's XAML-based offerings. When you compare the two, Flash-based development looks like an unwieldy cobbled together tinkertoy. And there just isn't enough Adobe funding available to change that in any significant way, so they 'give it up to the people' and let them join in for free." This is so offbase, in so many ways, that I don't even know where to start without devoting an entire evening to a response. So, I'll just say for now, where are all these wonderful XAML/WPF apps? Because I'm willing to be there are many more people running FP9 than .NET Framework 3, which, after all, was released just a couple of weeks ago. You might want to check out the FlexBuilder 2 trial, it's not that bad as all that. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore and Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:262319 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
