>Scorpio server monitoring wouldn't necessarily alleviate this.  The 50
>second rule is something Host my site has decided upon and SeeFusion is
>simply the tool they are enforcing it with.  

I meant more in terms of not *needing* to use something like SeeFusion, which 
allows the host to be so restrictive and take away some normal tools we have to 
specify a page to normally run longer. 


>While can't speak for the business rules of HMS, and I can verify that
>it is very easy to specify exception templates in the SeeFusion active
>monitoring rules.  I do it myself for reports which I expect to run
>long. 

Well, that's good to know at least. HMS has been telling me there is no way at 
all to override the setting. 


>As far as a solution I agree with what Ben Nadel said.  Copy it
>somewhere with a cryptic file name, and then redirect to it.  I would
>recommend using a JavaScript redirect. 

The problem here is that ideally I would find a solution that will work for 
people who purchase my software as well. One requirement is the code needs to 
work without Javascript in case the customer has it turned off. Is there a 
reason you would use a JS redirect rather than cflocation? Would there be a 
problem with the directory not being created first? Since cflocation is a 302 
redirect to my knowledge, not sure that it would be a problem. 

>If you create the file in a
>directory which has the cryptic name, then not only would it be hard to
>guess, but the user won't have to rename the file when they get it
>downloaded-- I hate that.

Yes, I definitely think this would be more secure versus using the same 
directory each time and a renamed file. But I'll also have to recode some way 
to present the file, versus the current method that checks for access, calls 
the cfcontent and starts the download, but never actually relocates the user to 
a new page. 

>And then, of course, clear files over 1 day old out of the directory or
>something.

The maintenance definitely is an issue as well. To use directories, I'll have 
to keep a list of directories created and then run a scheduled function every 
day to clear them. I try to avoid the use of required scheduled tasks since a 
fair number of my customers really aren't very ColdFusion savvy and even 
setting up datasources can be confusing for them. ;-) I'll have to see if I can 
maybe set this method up as an optional way to do downloads so they can use 
whichever method works best for them. 

Thanks for the ideas!


--- Mary Jo



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