hmm... I guess so. Well, while I see Brian's point, I have to agree with 
you Neil: Any one of us could have come up with these questions without 
prior knowledge of Brian's questions. Also, it's obvious that there was 
no malicious intent, and that Ben was *not* trying to achieve any sort 
of monetary gain from his actions.

Again, while fully recognizing Brian's rights in this matter, it just 
seems a little petty to me. If I would have been in his shoes, I'd have 
watched the site and waited to see if Ben was going to try and make any 
money from it. Other wise I'd have considered it flattery, and probably 
just asked him to site me as the originator of the questions. But, I 
understand that he may not have been able to do that even if he wanted.

I still think that Ben's concept is a good one and would support its 
continuation with donated, original questions from the community. I'm 
much more apt to take advantage of something which has the open source 
spirit than something commercial.

But that's probably just me. :o'

Cheers,
Chris

Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
> I reckon something must have happened if you look at 
>
> http://www.centrasoft.com/stuff/index.htm
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 17 January 2007 15:47
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: My sincerest apologies to Brian Simmons, CentraSoft.Com, and to
> the entire ColdFusion community
>
> Ben,
>
> I visited your concept site, and thought it was great. I'd like to echo 
> the sentiments of Rey and everyone else who's responded to your post. 
> Your apology was top-notch, and your reputation is intact as far as I'm 
> concerned. I don't know that Brian Simmons, CentraSoft.com or the CF 
> community could ask for anything else from you. Writing a statement like 
> this one and publishing it the the general public is one very hard thing 
> for anyone to do, and it shows humility and grace.
>
> Good job!
>
> Ben, I'm also curious if you were somehow contacted by Brian Simmons or 
> CentraSoft.com, or if you just woke up one morning and realized what 
> you'd done. Don't feel obligated to answer. I'm just curious. :o)
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
>
> Rey Bango wrote:
>   
>> Hi Ben,
>>
>> It takes a big man to own up to his mistakes and you've done a great job 
>>   of that. I personally don't feel any differently about your level of 
>> professionalism nor has your reputation been tarnished in my eyes.
>>
>> You've done the right thing by removing the site so just be sure to 
>> follow up with Brian, explain what your intentions were, explain what 
>> you've done to rectify the situation and I'm sure all will be fine.
>>
>> Don't sweat it my man. All is good.
>>
>> Rey...
>>
>> Ben Nadel wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Last week, inspired by recent community conversations about ColdFusion
>>> certification, I built a "proof of concept" site to see if there would
>>> be any interest in a community-driven site for ColdFusion certification
>>> preparation. In a fit of unbridled enthusiasm, sheer laziness, and poor
>>> judgment, I posted several of Brian Simmons' CFMX Exam Buster test
>>> questions to my site in order to demonstrate how my "proof of concept"
>>> site would work. I did so without crediting Brian and without getting
>>> his prior approval.
>>>  
>>> My intent was not to take credit for his work but rather to put some
>>> content on the "proof of concept" site in order to demonstrate
>>> functionality and to generate interest. However, intentions aside, this
>>> egregious lapse in judgment was both wrong and hurtful; it has shaken
>>> Brian's faith in the security of his hard work and intellectual property
>>> and it has tarnished his reputation. I am deeply sorry for the anguish
>>> that this has caused him and his family.
>>>  
>>> Brian's CFMX Exam Buster software is quite fantastic and without it, I
>>> surely would not have been able to obtained my advanced certification
>>> status. I feel absolutely horrible at the thought of jeopardizing either
>>> this essential piece of software or Brian's efforts. It is a product
>>> that I have recommended to many people (and will continue to do so) and
>>> I hope that it continues to be upgraded with each new version of
>>> ColdFusion.
>>>  
>>> In an effort of redemption and for various other concerns including
>>> legalities and quality control, I have decided to take down my "proof of
>>> concept" site. I cannot apologize enough for how I have made Brian feel
>>> and I hope that with time, Brian can learn to forgive me for my actions
>>> and that he will truly believe that my intentions were not malicious.
>>>  
>>> I also recognize that this display has tarnished my reputation and my
>>> standing within the ColdFusion community. I love this language very much
>>> and I love this community and I would like your trust. I understand that
>>> building trust takes time and effort and I promise that I will do
>>> everything in my power to gain your trust and to give back to the
>>> community that has given me so much.
>>>  
>>> My sincerest apologies to Brian Simmons, CentraSoft.Com, and to the
>>> entire ColdFusion community,
>>>  
>>> Ben Nadel
>>>
>>> ......................
>>> Ben Nadel
>>> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX7 Developer
>>> www.bennadel.com <http://www.bennadel.com/> 
>>>  
>>> Need ColdFusion Help?
>>> www.bennadel.com/ask-ben/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     
>>>       
>>     
>
>
>
> 

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