Why are you rebooting your Windows box when the patch doesn't require it?
Sounds like a user issue...not an OS issue :-D.

Eric 

-----Original Message-----
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, 21 January 2007 00:05
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Apache config

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 3:25 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Apache config
> 
<snip>
> 
> As for the whole open source argument, no, IIS nor third-party IIS 
> tools are open source. For something that is essentially a commodity, 
> like a web server, I have never needed the ability to edit the source, 
> I wouldn't be qualified to edit the source, and I suspect that this is 
> true for many of the people on this list. Out of curiosity, are you an 
> Apache committer? If you're not, have you made changes to the Apache 
> source? If you do make changes, what do you do when a new version 
> comes out? How are you any better in this respect than the "one man 
> companies" you mention above?
> 
I am not an Apache committer, and I would not be qualified to be one.  I do
know that there are thousands of eyes looking at the Apache source and
finding bugs and vulnerabilities.  I do upgrade my Apache versions from time
to time, and I do it more often if a serious vulnerability is found.  Unlike
Windows, however, this is not very often.  

On linux, apache gets automatically updated between minor versions as part
of the nightly update.  

> > Ok, maybe not so simple, but once you get the hang of it, you can 
> > feel the power.  Just like using linux for servers instead of 
> > windows.  It takes time to learn how to administer it, but once you 
> > do, you'll never go back.  For one thing you won't have to worry 
> > about monthly security patches.  They silently download at night 
> > without ever needing a reboot.  My Linux server has been up for 91 
> > days.  People have their servers up for years at a time without 
> > rebooting.  Can you say the same about windows?
> 
> Actually, the vast majority of Windows patches no longer need a 
> reboot, and if you think 91 days is an impressive uptime number, well, 
> I'm sorry to say, but most of my Windows servers have higher uptime 
> than that.
> 

Vast majority is not all.  I have my servers set to auto reboot when windows
patches come out, and they have been rebooting on a monthly basis.  The last
time they rebooted was 12/17.  If your servers have a higher uptime then 91
days, you must not be doing your job of patching server very well.  

Now I said my Linux server has an uptime of 91 days.  The only reason it's
so small, is because I was probably having some issue, and still have the
preconceived notion from the Windows world that a reboot usually fixes
things.  If I didn't reboot manually, I would've had a much higher uptime,
and as I've mentioned, I have seen Linux servers with uptimes measured in
years, all while receiving nightly updates.  

Russ




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