> 
> What if this token that gets issued falls into the wrong 
> hands?  If you don't need anything else but that token to 
> authorize a transaction, that's less secure than requiring a 
> cvv number for every transaction.

There's more to it than just a token but for the sake of this conversation,
that's all we need to outline how you don't need a CC to do repeat
transactions.

> > I know this but think about it... Without the CVV2 or pin 
> what use is 
> > the CC number so is there any need to store it? Probably not!
> 
> I don't know about other processors, but at Authorize.net you 
> can configure your account to not require a cvv number for 
> authorization.

Aaaarrrrghhhhh... How bad is that? I integrate with three UK based payment
gateways on a (reasonably) regular basis. Those being Worldpay, Protx and
Secpay. All of which as a minimum require the CVV number for their latest
APIs... I've never used Authorize.net although I've looked at it once or
twice but I never felt confident about actually integrating with them from
everything I read... Just a gut feeling that it would be more hassle than it
was worth...

> 
> That sucks!   What's ironic is that people are much more 
> paranoid about 
> online transactions than in-store transactions, though the 
> latter generally have more security openings (employees 
> handling physical receipts etc.)
> 

I know the thing is, I'm a very savvy user of credit cards. I always
expected that if a cc fraud was to happen to me it would be online or if my
wallet was stolen. Who'd have thought it would happen at a filling station
on one of the busiest motorways in Europe without any perceived crime being
committed, but then again.... :)

Paul



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