Very well put Richard. I would also add that I don't think the use of "Buzz Words" here is fair. It connotes a sense of meaninglessness about the words or phrases involved, and these OO terms have longs since left the realm of buzz word, in my opinion.
"You'll have to drink from the Firehose unless you drill down and check the dashboard to see why the bloatware bubbled up from the bake-off." - From a Dilbert strip Now those are some buzz words! Chris Richard Kroll wrote: >> I agree with most of your post, Dave. But one thing that bothers me >> about the 100 CF frameworks out there is that often times these guys >> make up their own dialect instead of trying to use existing terms that >> mean the same thing. I'm not a frameworks expert, but from the >> reading I've done, Fusebox and Model Glue each introduce new terms for >> concepts that have been around for a long time (for example, "fuse" >> and all of its variants). I really wish people would stop trying to >> be cool, and just use existing standard language. > > I have to disagree to an extent. Of all the frameworks in CF that I > have seen, each attempts to leverage methodologies proven in other > languages and bring them to CF (MVC, ORM, etc.). Inside each framework, > each attempts to communicate the moving bits as best they can as there > is not always a 1-1 relationship with other languages. For example, in > many event driven applications you either broadcast an 'event' or > broadcast a 'message'. In both MG and MII, the exact names change, but > the intent is carried through. > > Learning CF has nothing to do with learning a framework. Leveraging a > framework or a design pattern helps developers solve specific problems > they encounter. Too much business logic tied to your display? Use the > MVC pattern (and perhaps a MVC framework). How someone learns CF is > based on a myriad of factors and varies greatly from person to person. > > Each of these "Buzz words" solves REAL problems that developers face day > to day. The "Buzz words" are buzz words in CF, but have long since > become standard practice in most modern languages. > > My 2 cents > > Rich Kroll > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 Experience Flex 2 & MX7 integration & create powerful cross-platform RIAs http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJQ Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:273455 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4

