Dave, 

This thread was already coming to a close, and your post did not add
anything constructive.  If you are too lazy to learn other platforms, that's
your prerogative, and you're welcome to ignore this whole thread.  That's
how a mailing list works - if you're interested in the thread, you read it,
if not, you skip it.  Posting comments saying that you're not interested in
a particular thread doesn't help anybody. 

Russ

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 4:43 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: OT ISAPI Rewrite
> 
> Please stop this. I don't care which is "better". Nobody (based on an
> informal survey of 1) cares. I have a preference based 95% on ignorance,
> with which I am quite happy. I'm not going to spend the rest of my life
> learning every damn platform just so I can die knowing "Russ was right".
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 2:33 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: OT ISAPI Rewrite
> 
> 
> > Well you can easily just create a logs/[sitename]/logfile structure in
> IIS
> > and point each site to their corresponding log folder, we do it all the
> > time.
> 
> I'm still not seeing how to do this.  I guess I can theoretically point
> each
> website to an individual folder, but then it will still create something
> like W3SVCXXXXXXXXX\exyymmdd.log.  You don't have any control over this
> part.  You also don't have control on what time the log file rolls over.
> Sure most people prefer 12am, but what if your servers are in a different
> time zone and you want it to roll over 11pm or 1am?
> 
> > Why is it an extra step to do that backup process? Of which can be
> > automated
> > anyhow.
> >
> 
> It is an extra step, whether you automate it or not.  With Apache, it's
> just
> plain text files, and you can back them up without worry.  You can also
> create a folder with all the virtual site configurations and have them
> generated automatically by coldfusion.  For example, you can have a folder
> named vsites and you can have files such as sitename.com.conf which just
> needs to contain something like this:
> 
> <VirtualHost *:80>
>     ServerName *.example.com
>     DocumentRoot c:/websites/example.com/
> </VirtualHost>
> 
> You can specify other options such as per site logging, but nothing else
> needs to be specified.  I have just create a virtual site which will host
> all the subdomains for example.com, including www.example.com and
> user1.example.com and site2.example.com, etc.  Try doing same with IIS
> without dedicating an IP to the site.
> 
> You can have a directive in the main configuration file to include all the
> config files in this directory.
> 
> Include conf/vsites/*.conf
> 
> Voila.  Have cf generate the text file, and restart apache to refresh the
> config, and you have just create an easy way to automatically create
> virtual
> sites.  I wonder how long it would take you to do the same thing with IIS?
> 
> > We get very good support from Microsoft as and when we need thanks, we
> are
> > a
> > big customer of theirs :-)
> >
> > I am still yet to find a decent argument on why anyone should use Apache
> > over IIS from your chosen arguments.
> >
> > True there is URL rewriting but then again, maybe you shouldn't need to
> do
> > this if your website structures are friendly out of the box :-)
> >
> 
> It doesn't matter how good your website structures are, you need URL
> rewriting for SEO.  It's also just a nice feature to have, and the
> possibilities with it are endless.
> 
> 
> Also lets say that someone else logs onto the box, and makes some
> configuration changes and breaks something.  Do you know what they
> changed?
> Do you know how to fix it?  Do you feel confident enough to restore from
> backup?
> 
> With apache, you can keep the configuration in subversion, and know
> EXACTLY
> what was changed since last commit.  You can revert the changes, roll back
> to a previous version, and all the other goodies that come with SVN.
> 
> Apache is a developer's web server.  It turns the web server into
> something
> you can write code for.  I, for one, want to see all the configuration
> details of a particular site right in front of me, without having to flip
> through 20 different tabs.
> 
> Russ
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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