> I guess we'll disagree on this. The evolution of libraries > such as jQuery, Dojo & YUI! have made development using these > technologies far too easy and with the adoption rates > continuing to climb, I can't call them band-aids. Perhaps > thats what they were when people initially did remote > scripting before it was called Ajax but there's just too much > good technology out there now to call it a band-aid.
The fact that it's easy to do AJAX development is irrelevant. The fact is that HTML and HTTP weren't designed to deliver applications, and no matter how good your libraries are, they can't fix the limitations inherent in HTML and HTTP. Let me know when you can do client push, or database concurrency management, or anything else that you can take for granted in a traditional client-server environment. And I'm not talking about hacks to simulate those things - I already know those intimately - but the things themselves. > I absolutely agree on this point. Having developed > enterprise-level client/server applications using > PowerBuilder for almost 8 years, I'm keenly aware of how much > more power a true client/server development tool can provide. > I also don't believe that the browser should be the platform > for a complete RIA solution nor do I believe that Ajax and > related technologies are the technologies to build those > types of applications. If you need to build a desktop > application, then use desktop development tools such as MS' > suite of .Net tools. Why shouldn't we be able to have that sort of power with distributed multiuser applications? There is no reason, other than inertia, why we can't. > Until broadband becomes more pervasive, I don't see how Flex, > OpenLazlo and related heavy RIA technologies, can fill the > need. I think you misunderstand what I'm saying. I'm not saying you shouldn't use AJAX, or HTML, or anything else. I'm not saying that you should immediately rewrite everything in Flex. What I am saying, is that HTML is a fundamentally flawed delivery mechanism for applications, and that ultimately we should be looking for a replacement (perhaps Flex) rather than an incremental improvement (AJAX). That said, Flex applications can perform reasonably well even with relatively slow connections. I should know, since I often use a slow connection (my cell phone as a modem) for all sorts of things. 1xRTT is a little faster than dialup, not much. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! This email has been processed by SmoothZap - www.smoothwall.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:274800 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
