> And surely, like most if not all CS grads you would have learned a design
> pattern in whatever OO language you were taught? A framework probably was
> shown as well, and it's benefits?

Not really. Design patterns, sure. But frameworks? Never. I graduated from 
CompSci around the mid to late 90s. We were still using C and Borland for 
all our work. It wasn't even until after I finished school that Java was 
even taught, much less framework discussions. I was always taught, "whenever 
and wherever you get your job programming, you'll learn that they probably 
have procedures in place that you'll have to learn in order to work well 
with the team that you'll join". I guess that was our "framework" 
discussion. 



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