Thanks Sean, While I'm very interested in svn, just going to take some time to figure out how it's going to work with our site load... Read below for some additional comments. Again thanks for your comments...
On 5/8/07, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/7/07, Casey Dougall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How long would that take to commit these > > edits using SVN? > > Right-click, Team > Commit > add (an optional) comment explaining what > the change does / fixes and click OK. Sounds good... > > Can they be done with the client on the phone? > > You randomly change code while the client's on the phone?!? You don't > make them log a change request / bug for changes? We log the request as we're talking with them. We have a task management system that's really tricked out. You need to understand. sometimes these updates are 3 minutes. Not code related but maybe a rate change. While we offer a custom CMS solutions, many clients would still rather call us to make a quick change to their rates for the following season. They have a 5 page website where the dates and rates change for the following year, maybe even a new menu. These are the sites that are the problem. While SVN may work well on our dedicated servers, it's not going to work out on shared windows asp hosting... While we continue to move these sites to our dedicated boxes, it's a lot of work and non billable much of the time. > You don't quote them > for a change? Wow, so are so totally setting the wrong expectations - > you are devaluing us all. Don't get me wrong. Many of these items I'm talking about are "edits" not "projects" we do quote those. Projects need signed contracts, edits just get billed. > Sorry to be so harsh but you're acting like > a cowboy and that takes everyone's rates down. I'm not sure what you are billing but I can almost guarantee our rates are above or equal to what your are charging. We still run into some issues quoting projects correctly at times, but we've been getting a lot better on that tip. Like the projects you expect take 3 hours running over to 6 +. > > What happens > > when it's one of our older sites we haven't created a repository for? > > Import it into SVN. It may take a while but you can do it overnight > and make the change the next day (think that's too slow - see above). > Or you can be proactive and just start importing old sites now. Ha... Think it's time to start looking at Terabyte Drives... Because that's what its going to take. Maybe not when we are setting up the sites but by years end or end of 2008 after we have rounds and rounds of edits... We're also talking lots of sites. > cvsdude has great hosted plans for SVN and Trac - bug tracking is the > critical other side of source code control, in my opinion. Eh, we would most likelly handle most SVN in the office and figure out a way to upload those changes to the live servers. > I'd really be interested in how we can accomplish more version control but > I > > really don't see the benefit on the small 5/10 page sites > > Well, once it becomes the way you work, you soon realize that any > other way is sub-par. There really is no project too small for version > control. > -- True true, as with anything in life, it might take you a while to pick up on something new but once you do, there is just no turning back... But I'm still not eating shell fish!!! Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN > An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ -- Casey ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJR Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:277245 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
