well its a pity you didnt read more then.


On 5/12/07, Bobby Hartsfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What I'm saying is that I didn't bother reading past this line...
>
> > So what your saying is this.
>
> But I'm sure it's full of contradictions. I agreed a long time ago that we
> were both right and wrong. If that's what you realized in the rest of your
> post then congrats... glad you could catch up. We can leave it at that
> unless you want to have a grown up conversation about it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:00 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Subversion Tutorial Posted
>
> So what your saying is this.
>
> You and I are on the same team working on the same project....
>
> I make some changes to my code, and I have not written any TDD test cases
> and just submit my work into subversion and go home, while I am travelling
> home I am involved in a car accident and put into hospital and out of
> action
> for a day or 2... Thanking god its not serious...
>
> Anyway, the code that I submitted broke the website / application in a
> major
> way. now its your Job or someone elses to step through the revisions to
> see
> what I did to break the code. Now on top of this, you have one hour to
> figure this out before you demostrate the new changes that had been made
> for
> the last few weeks.
>
> However I can't be contacted cause I am still not very coheriant.... But
> due
> to an unforseen problem, I not only broke the latest version (Note:
> version
> not revision) and forced others to waste time finding out what I did to
> break the latest build / code. In the meantime the client is being
> patient,
> and you have to put him/her off for a day or two to get this sorted out,
> then he begins to wonder what he/she has paid for and is becomming a
> little
> impatient with you.
>
> Are you begining to understand my point now, it doesn't matter what you
> think in the long run you might have saved more time on the project if I
> did
> not commit this code and stopped everyone else from getting their job
> done.
>
> Subversion is a version control system, with the ability to handle
> revisions. It is not a revision control system and should not be treated
> that way. The mentality of a developer should be take action against all
> possible problems, and if my code is going to break the latest build at
> the
> 11th hour or not I shouldn't commit it until I am 100% happy with the fact
> all my unit test cases have passed and I have covered 100% of code in my
> tests.
>
> Bobby, your methods might work. But it can be improved and thats what I am
> trying to say to you, why do you think the java community adopted the
> agile
> and TDD aproach, and use subversion for what it is designed for. They know
> at the end of the day they can export the code to a test server, and its
> as
> stable as it should be for any demo or presentation at the drop of a hat.
>
>
> On 5/12/07, Bobby Hartsfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Its your time your wasting
> >
> > I'm not wasting any time or money but thanks for your concern. I have a
> > pretty good reputation for OVER delivering applications WELL under
> budget
> > AND deadline. Anyone who has worked with me can vouch for that. I also
> > come
> > from a place where I clean up after myself. If I spill it, I'll clean it
> > up... If I break it, I'll fix it. I don't depend on other developers to
> > hold
> > my hand and fix mistakes that I might have made. I would do that on my
> own
> > time and dime. If I had back every dollar I've 'wasted' doing so over
> the
> > years, I MIGHT be able to buy you a beer. Maybe, over that beer, I could
> > explain to you the concept of "agree to disagree" and the definition of
> > narcissism.
> >
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> > 5:10 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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