On 6/5/07, Damien McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rick Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 11:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: Run PHP code inline on a Coldfusion page
> >
> > A.  You're a hosting company and it's a lot simpler to all of
> > sudden be offering PHP and Ruby hosting without having to install
> > the extra bits on the server.  You have less maintenance and your
> > clients programs run a bit faster than most other hosts.
>
> I would say this would not be the case.  You're still going to have
> maintenance issues because you've got extra software installed.  From
> what I've seen you also are not going to be able to automagically run
> existing PHP, Ruby, etc software out of the box, there would be a great
> deal of modification required to get the files to parse, BICBW.
>

I have to agree this is little crazy -- how does allowing folks to
combine PHP and CF make an ISP's job *easier*? Enabling php is as
simple as adding mod_php to apache or IIS. That was easy. But
installing all this stuff on top of ColdFusion (plus buying a
ColdFusion license) and caching all the PHP into application scope on
a shared server.

Yeah -- that's easy ;) Easy to kill a server. I think about the shared
hosting issues that TextDrive has on their LAMP+Ruby boxes and they
*know* what they're doing. Adding CF to that mix and running the LAMP
stuff through there.... argh. Move me to dedicated.. Wait a sec --
that must be the goal of their evil plan -- moving folks off shared.

Seriously though, other than session integration with PHP, or some
edge case of a tool that's simply not available for CF (eg you just
*have* to run Sparklines from Ruby) it seems like a great feature for
integration of existing sites and not much more. It's just like using
Java for integrating with CORBA in CF -- not something I'm doing
often, but glad to know I can.

Sun's mantra has always been "the answer is Java, what's the
question?" and making it *the* cross-platform JRE for all the
web-oriented scripting languages is huge for them and their Solaris
and hardware sales. Running CF, Python (using Jython), Ruby (using
JRuby) and PHP (using this weird bridge and eventually Zend's native
Java scripting compliant version) all on a Java server makes
deployment and server management folks pretty happy IMHO.

-- 
John Paul Ashenfelter
CTO/Transitionpoint
(blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com
(email) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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