On 6/25/07, Wil Genovese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > CF Eclipse lacks many of the basic features and extensibility of > HS/CFS. It lacks in usability and accessibility. In HS/CFS anyone can > map anything that can be done with the mouse to be done via the > keyboard. CF Eclipse can not do this.
There is almost nothing in Eclipse that cannot be customized to a keyboard shortcut. The list of commands that can be mapped to keyboard shortcuts is gigantic. I think you are looking in the wrong place. HS/CFS Snippets can be mapped to > shortcut keys also. Now snippets are restricted to the ctr-j function > only. Not only can you change this keyboard shortcut to anything you want, the Snippets in CFEclipse are far, far more powerful than those in HS. Also with snippets I could select code then have my snippet inset > wrapped around my code. So far I can not find a way to do that in > CFEclipse. I don't think you can. But you can have a Snippet wrap in front of and after your current cursor position, and you can also set up the snippet to prompt you for input, which can be anything. For example, you type "this will be wrapped". Select it and cut it. Then type your snippet trigger text and hit control-J (or whatever you have set the snippet command to). The snippet prompts you for input, you paste your cut code into the prompt. The snippet renders with your pasted code in the middle. In HS/CFS I can select a block of code and use ctrl+shift+> > or ctrl+shift+< to indent or un-indent the entire block of code. Now if > I have to change indenting I have to go one line at a time. Again, this is completely possible in Eclipse. Select all the lines you want and press Tab to indent or Shift-Tab to unindent. As a quick aside I have to point out that if there are a lot of people who were thinking the same thing as Wil in regard to what you think Eclipse cannot do I think you need to spend some time working through the Getting Started screens. I mean, Eclipse is used by hundreds of thousands of programmers...if you think you have to indent one line at a time or something like this then be aware that your understanding of how Eclipse works is probably where the problem lies. In the > Allaire days (I was a member of Team Allaire) we went through a > development phase where the usability and accessibility functionality > had to be added in and then standardized to meet up with standard > keyboard actions. CF Eclipse fails on standard keyboard short cuts > also. It uses some of it own actions for what should be standard > keyboard short cuts for other actions. Eclipse and CFEclipse need to > face this same scrutiny. I'm not sure what you mean here, but again, you can customize Eclipse to an absurd degree. Where exactly do you think CFEclipse "fails" on "standard shortcuts" (I'm not even sure what that means). Then as you point out there is the memory usage. The foot print makes > most any Microsoft product look lean and efficient. Even Firefox's > memory usage pales in comparison to Eclipse/CFEclipse. > > HS/CFS uses 14Mb of memory on my machine. I've seen CFEclipse eclipse > the 200mb mark. Eclipse is a large program, no doubt about it. But is the usual 150 Mb or so really that bad considering everything that it can do? Right now my Firefox isusing 211 Mb, Eclipse 157 Mb, and Outlook 101 Mb. RAM is so cheap now that I just don't see why this is even an issue. If it was using up 1.5Gb or something then I could understand, but 150 Mb is just not that much memory on a modern computer. Overall CF Eclipse has slowed me down and forces me to use my trackball > more. Too much mousing and trackball usage flares up my tendinitis and > puts me in great pain. Keyboarding is much better for me and many > others which is why usability and accessibility standards exist in the > first place. See above. [RANT OFF] > > Feel free to prove me wrong by showing me how to do any of the things I > mentioned. I look forward to that. Hopefully I have. :-) Brian ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| ColdFusion 8 beta â Build next generation applications today. Free beta download on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:282131 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
