Sure you can open a file anywhere on your machine, and edit it in
Dreamweaver, but how will you test the file?  You need to have a site
pointed there.  Why not just create a test site/subfolder somewhere that
already points to an existing site and put your test files there.  You can
even create a subfolder and ignore it with SVN, this way you won't have
problems keeping temp files around and you won't have to commit them. 

Russ



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bobby Hartsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 10:48 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF Editor
> 
> Of course I'm talking about Eclipse... it's the base behind the CFEclipse
> plug-in in discussion here. Can't have the latter without the former so
> let's not get into semantics. IDE, Editor, w/e.
> 
> If someone asks a question on this list and I plan to offer a working
> example, I'd rather just open up a blank page and write one, test it, make
> sure it works and post it here... not add it to a project and definitely
> not
> version control. There are plenty of instances that you might want to just
> create a quick test CFM file like this. "You" being the general population
> and not you personally.
> 
> Dreamweaver: double click a cfm file anywhere on the machine.. edit and
> save.
> CFEClipse: open Eclipse, change to CFEclipse view if you aren't already
> there find the file in the list view THEN finally open it, edit it and
> save
> (and in your case... possibly commit).
> 
> Come on...
> 
> I'm not saying CFEClipse sucks or anything. I use it daily :-) I'm just
> saying that there is no way you would expect an individual who has never
> used CFEclipse or Dreamweaver to think that CFEclipse was easier than
> Dreamweaver.
> 
> What photoshop has to do with editing CF code I don't know.
> 
> ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
> Bobby Hartsfield
> http://acoderslife.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Kotek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 8:42 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF Editor
> 
> On 6/25/07, Bobby Hartsfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Seriously Neil? You question that statement at all?
> >
> > Compared to 95% of all editors out there, I think it is obvious that
> > CFEclipse has a bigger learning curve. (the other 5% including editors
> > such as Emacs and VI heh)
> 
> 
> I think you're really talking about Eclipse in general, as CFEclipse is
> just
> an Eclipse plugin and a relatively straighforward one at that (compared to
> something like Aptana). Even still, I don't think Eclipse has much more of
> a
> learning curve than Dreamweaver, and certainly nothing like Photoshop. The
> Getting Started Screen that shows up when you launch it for the first time
> will show you everything you need to know if you just take a few minutes
> to
> go through it.
> 
> Out of the box, you can't just open CFEclipse and start editing files for
> > one... you have to set up workspaces and projects either with the
> > files you want to edit or create new files within a project before you
> > can edit them.
> > The whole project based editing is the one big turn-off for most
> > people that say they don't like CFEclipse.
> 
> 
> I just don't get this complaint. Yes, you have to set up a project to edit
> a
> file, but this is not an issue to me. Every single file I edit is in
> Subversion, even local files, and thus every project I have in my Eclipse
> workspaces is tied to SVN either locally or remotely. I view Eclipse
> projects, and their connections to Subversion, not as a problem but as a
> great advantage. Personally I think anyone NOT using SVN at this point is
> off their rocker.
> 
> Same goes for the way projects relate to ANT. You can use ANT to execute
> flawless deployments every single time at the click of a button. Every
> step
> that you do manually to update a site, whether it is pulling from SVN,
> uploading via FTP, copying across mapped drives, backing up the current
> code, pruning unit tests and other supporting files, executing a browser
> request to reload/refresh the app, or just about anything else, can be
> done
> with ANT so you never need to worry about it again.
> 
> <opinion>If it were easy to just install CFE and simply double click a
> .cfm
> > (that isn't part of an existing project) then edit and save... CFEclipse
> > would be on every developers workstation.</opinion>
> 
> 
> Unfortunately as far as I know this isn't possible due to the fact that a
> file could be part of one or many Eclipse workspaces or projects. Eclipse
> has no idea which workspace to open, for example. Again, to me this isn't
> an
> issue. I very rarely just need to open a random file to edit it.
> Everything
> is part of a workspace, project, and working set. Navigating between
> workspaces is easy, creating a project takes about 10 seconds, and keeping
> workspaces tidy with working sets is also quite simple. Again, yes there
> is
> a learning curve to this, but it is really not that bad and once you
> embrace
> it (and SVN, ANT, and the other great things that Eclipse and CFEclipse
> can
> do) you'll wonder how you ever did it the other way.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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