And as long as you are using Eclipse as per the dev standards :-)
"This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -----Original Message----- From: Jose Diaz To: CF-Talk Sent: Tue Jun 26 20:17:51 2007 Subject: Re: CF Editor I work with heaps of eclipse users and I have to say its a great tool and I can totally appreciate the value of using it for development + all those excellent plugins out there. However old habits die hard - it may not be notepad but I love using textpad lol. ;) As long as you get the job done in the time required - everyones happy. Jose On 6/26/07, Brian Kotek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 6/26/07, Claude Schneegans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >>Sure you can open a file anywhere on your machine, and edit it in > > Dreamweaver, but how will you test the file? > > > > But who needs to test a file directly from the editor ? > > I develop from my work station on which I have CF (3 different versions) > > and IIS installed. > > For testing I just use MSIE and Firefox on localhost, and I'm sure the > > application works > > with these 2 browsers. > > When you modify a file, just save it, and just refresh the browser > > window on the application, period. > > > Utterly incorrect. So your idea of "testing" is "running the app in your > browser"? This is just so wrong on so many levels that I don't know where > to > start. How do you test for edge cases, bad data, or any other actual bug > that you discover? This is exactly what unit tests are for. And CFEclipse > has a tab right there to run any unit test you open, automatically. You > can > also set up an ANT task to run some or all of your tests at once. Or even > to > automatically run your whole test suite every time you save a file. > > Further more, most CF files do not run independently, but from within an > > application, > > so no one would actually "test a file", the application must be tested. > > > Most CF files don't run independently in a live app, but the unit tests > should. The entire point of a unit test is to test the file in isolation > from the rest of the system, so you are totally sure what you are testing. > They are also for ensuring that new bugs can never happen again by being > added to the unit test. If I find a problem, the first thing I do is add > that situation to the unit test. Then I fix the problem. And then I know > that no matter what happens my test will always check that condition going > forward. > > I think you're getting unit testing confused with integration or > regression > testing. And for those, I still would never just open a browser and click > around the app. Sorry but that's just crazy. I use Selenium to let me run > a > full regression test on my application at the click of a button. > > If you want to have a discussion about how to test properly please start > another thread and I'll be happy to go back and forth with you. But back > to > the point of this thread (and to CFEclipse in particular) is that anyone > who > takes testing seriously wants to test directly in the IDE (Eclipse is an > IDE > not an editor). > > -- > > _______________________________________ > > REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; > > See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm > > (Please send any spam to this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| ColdFusion MX7 by Adobe® Dyncamically transform webcontent into Adobe PDF with new ColdFusion MX7. Free Trial. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJV Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:282279 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
