I am not knocking jQuery.... I am knocking the stupid response made about the amount of includes that CF8 has to do its Job.
I have used jQuery and I agree that its a good little framework, I have also used extJS and consider that an even better addition when using it in combination with jQuery. But my point lies in the amount of JS code that is needed by CF to do its job, and by making a stupid ass comment that the idot made will piss more people off because it comes from his lack of understanding on what a large scale application needs in JS to achieve what it needs to do. Now if jQuery can provide all that functionality with so little code then I challenge that user to write the same functionality that CF8 provideswithout adding extra JS code to his application. Enough Said on the matter. On 8/29/07, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Andrew, > > I'm in the fortunate position of being part of both the Ext and jQuery > project teams. First, let me say that jQuery is in no way a "Hyundai > Excel". A better analogy would be to day that its like comparing a > "Ferrari (jQuery) to a Mercedes-Benz CL 600 (Ext)". Both provide a > tremendous amount of functionality and both target different audiences. > > jQuery is a very streamlined library which is best suited for > consumer-facing websites that want to enhance the UX with Ajax & > effects. Its fast and sporty and helps you get what you need quickly; > just like a Ferrari. > > Ext can certainly be used for consumer-facing websites but what we've > seen is that most users, because of its rich UI control set, tend to use > it to build full blown desktop-like applications. Its got speed and a > hole lotta bells and whistles which make building desktop-like apps a > breeze. If you want high-end luxury and performance, like a > Mercedes-Benz CL 600, then you use Ext v1.1. > > So what I ask is that you not be so quick to dismiss jQuery especially > since companies Digg, MSNBC, Intel, Intuit, & Salesforce.com (HUGE ERP) > seem to be doing quite well with it. > > If you ask me which one I prefer, I would tell you that for consumer > facing sites, I prefer the leanness of jQuery but for a true desktop > experience, I prefer Ext. And yes, I work with both libraries and love > them both. Both libraries are incredibly robust and cater to different > segments. > > On a final note, you really should ease up on calling someone "stupid". > While you may not agree with someone else's opinion (and you're > certainly not expected to), I think your last post was a little over the > top. > > Rey... > > Andrew Scott wrote: > > And thats nothing compared to a extJS web application I have written. > > > > You have to realise that these files do things that are more than what > > jQuery offer, extJS is a fairly good framework and can be used with > jQuery > > but once you start building JS / Ajx stuff for an application then you > will > > be surprised how quickly these files add up. > > > > I think you should take your head out of the sand, before you get > blinded by > > your own stupidty. > > > > Seriously. Why are you bothering, you obviously haven't done anything > > serious with Ajax / GUI development as of yet. If you had this sort of > > comment from you would not have appeared. > > > > Now to make a comparison against CF8 and jQuery is like making a > comparison > > with a Hyundai Excel and a Jaguar..... > > > > Btw I might pick myself of the floor from laughing so hard at you in > about 1 > > week, but it might actually be 3 weeks before I get over this stupid > email > > from you. > > > > > > > > On 8/29/07, stylo stylo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Here's the breakdown if interested, btw, just realized the web > developer > >> toolbar brings it all up nicely: > >> > >> Scripts (8 files) > >> http://code.fraser.id.au/CFIDE/scripts/ajax/ext/ext-core.js 76 KB > >> http://code.fraser.id.au/CFIDE/scripts/ajax/package/cfajax.js 34 KB > >> > >> > http://code.fraser.id.au/CFIDE/scripts/ajax/yui/yahoo-dom-event/yahoo-dom-event.js > 28 > >> KB > >> http://code.fraser.id.au/CFIDE/scripts/ajax/messages/cfmessage.js > 15 > >> KB > >> > http://code.fraser.id.au/CFIDE/scripts/ajax/yui/animation/animation-min.js > 15 > >> KB > >> > >> > http://code.fraser.id.au/CFIDE/scripts/ajax/ext/adapter/yui/ext-yui-adapter.js > 10 > >> KB > >> http://code.fraser.id.au/CFIDE/scripts/ajax/ext/package/tabs/tabs.js > 10 > >> KB > >> http://code.fraser.id.au/CFIDE/scripts/ajax/package/cflayout.js 9 KB > >> > >> Style Sheets (1 file) 61 KB > >> > http://code.fraser.id.au/CFIDE/scripts/ajax/resources/ext/css/ext-all.css > >> 61 KB > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:287371 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
