Hi Andrew, There's a little more that needs to be said.
> I am not knocking jQuery.... Then I take it you agree that my analogy is a little better. Comparing jQuery to a Hyundai Excel was a bit of a knock and I hope I've offered a different perspective by comparing it to a Ferrari. > I am knocking the stupid response made about the amount of includes that CF8 > has to do its Job. The amount of files and the size of those files is a concern that's been expressed by others, including myself. So based on your opinion, should I now assume we're stupid as well? To be more precise, my blog postings and efforts to minimize the file size included in CF8 are well documented and was a conduit for getting Adobe to realize the impact that a 700k page size for something as simple as a CFDIV. In fact, I've been thanked by Adobe for bringing it to their attention as they realized that this merited more attention. Page size is a realistic concern and should not be taken for granted. Even Yahoo has published a study which shows that 40-60% of their users have an empty cache experience: http://yuiblog.com/blog/2007/01/04/performance-research-part-2/ > I have used jQuery and I agree that its a good little framework, I have also > used extJS and consider that an even better addition when using it in > combination with jQuery. Yep, its a great combination and John Resig and I were very happy when Jack incorporated the jQuery adapter into Ext. I continue to work with both Jack and John on that integration. > But my point lies in the amount of JS code that is needed by CF to do its > job, and by making a stupid ass comment that the idot made will piss more > people off because it comes from his lack of understanding on what a large > scale application needs in JS to achieve what it needs to do. He could've phrased his reply a little better to point out the advantages & disadvantages off both libraries but I don't think that you've handled it any better by diminishing his concern and, on top of that, referring to his comments as "stupid". Rey... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72&catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:287374 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4

