That is probably the best advice I've seen on the list so far for the newbies. I wouldn't be where I am today without the site I was running. Here's my story... I was a senior in high school, very into computers and just getting into CGI and perl for interactive web development for a few sites I was doing for some friends and the local high school. Since I was also into BBSing, I attended SysCon (http://www.1syscon.org) to meet some like-minded people and get a little vacation. At this small conference in Vegas, I was introduced to CF by the owner of a development company in California (which I now work for). Six months later I went back to Vegas for the conference again, but this time I was the luckly winner of my very own copy of CF Server 4.0. A few weeks later I realized what I had and discovered its true power when I converted all of my web sites from perl into CF. I got the Forta books and played with CF for the next 5 months, then went back to SysCon again (they do their conference every 6 months instead of annually). This time around, the CF developers that had also attended all of the other Syscons mentioned that they were looking for some talent, so I gave them some URLs to look at and went home thinking I would never hear anything else about it. A couple of weeks later they called and told me that they were interesetd in possibly hiring me. Less than a month later I moved out of my parents house and took the job. Now, a year later, I'm still with the same company. Anyway, if you're a CF "newbie" the best thing you can do to teach yourself CF and to show others that you know your stuff is to do your own web site to demonstrate your skills. _______________________________________ Justin Scott :: [Staff Developer] http://www.annex.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warrick, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 12:23 PM Subject: RE: jr CF My advice: Setup a web site which demostrates your skills. If you can demonstrate that you are knowledgeable about EVERY CF tag in the book, I'm sure you'll get a job. ---mark -------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Warrick Phone: (714) 547-5386 Efax.com Fax: (801) 730-7289 Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personal URL: http://www.warrick.net Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business URL: http://www.fusioneers.com ICQ: 346566 -------------------------------------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 11:28 AM > To: CF-Jobs > Subject: Re: jr CF > > > > Things I would recommend: > > Take the Allaire courses. The beginner one and the advanced one on > Cold Fusion. Even if you pay for it out of your own pocket. They > aren't substitute for real-world experience, but will probably look > better on a resume than "I self-taught myself at home for the past 6 > months." > > Become active in the local CFUG, or try to start one if there isn't one. > Go to meetings, and if you can, get involved in the web site (which will > most likely use Cold Fusion). Although, recruiting at meetings is > generally frowned upon by the CFUG managers, I have been to meetings that > do a 'business card swap' at the end of the meeting. You may > even be able > to do this sort of work telecommuting for a CFUG if there isn't > one local. > > Look up local non-profit or volunteer run organizations. Can you get > involved with their web site, will ColdFusion help. > > I just don't think it's right for a company to pay someone nothing, > (that includes internships) for work. I wouldn't expect an intern > or a jr developer to receive the compensation someone w/ 4+ years > experience would, either. > > > > Ellen Swartz wrote: > > > > Very interesting thread. > > > > I am not alone and it does not make me feel any better. > > I have been struggling for the last 6 months between getting > several part-time > > jobs to make some $ and finding an entry level CF position or > internship. I > > got about 10 interviews with local companies that all ended the > same way. > > "Sorry, you don't have enough experience. Go home, work hard > and contact us > > again when you are ready." > > > > Let's face it. What company is going to hire an accountant with > no experience > > and barely any knowledge? > > If CF was tought in college we would not be were we are now. We > still would > > not have the real life experience but we would have a lot more > knowledge and > > consequently a lot more chances to find an entry level CF job. > > > > I got to a point where I was wondering if I should pay a > company to hire me > > and give me some real life experience. I would work for freee > if I was given > > the opportunity (only on-site with a local company). It's > either that (and I > > agree I would be taken advantage of) or spent another year > strugging learning > > in 6 months at home what I would probably learn in a month > working full time. > > > > Why don't we start something. > > CF guru could teach one or twice a week and be paid for it. > > Example: I live in Fort Lauderdale, FL. If an experience CF > could give a class > > to 10 CF beginners at least once a week and get paid by us (how > much would > > have to be determined) maybe we would learn faster and smarter. > > > > > > -- > Jeff Houser > AIM: Reboog711 | ICQ: 5246969 | Phone: 860-229-2781 > -- > DotComIt, LLC > Computer Consultant specializing in database driven web data > Lotus Notes/Domino, Cold Fusion > -- > Half of the Alternative Folk Acoustic Duo called Far Cry Fly > http://www.farcryfly.com > http://www.mp3.com/FarCryFly > -- > Does Everyone Think I'm a Cynical? > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------ > To Unsubscribe visit > http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf _jobs or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=sts or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
