If your having problems getting a job doing cf it's purely because you don't have the skills, not the experience. Read, read, read then start creating pages to build a portfolio. cf is a very easy language to learn. And you can get the general basics down in under a month if you put the time into it. If you can show someone your skills with a portfolio it doesn't matter that your inexperienced. They'll give you a chance if you can prove that your sharp and can learn the advanced stuff. Rob Flesher Cold Fusion Applications Developer LivingNexus, LLD. 1111 N. 19th Street, Suite 210 Arlington, VA 22209 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >From: "Lloyd, Kendre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: jr CF >Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:18:59 -0500 > >I was in accounting for several years. I work for a non profit. I took a >lateral in Electronic Pubs and found cold fusion. I simply began doing it. >Once I did my first application with it, the company invested in me by >paying for the basic cold fusion class. The more aps I did, the happier >they were and sent me to advanced cold fusion. It took me a year to get >the >promotion, title and salary to go with it all, but it was worth it. Find a >small growing concern with system needs, take what you already know there, >show it, work hard and the rewards will come. It worked for me. Yeah, I >could have taken my little bit of knowledge and fudged a higher paying job >elsewhere, I saw folks do that, but I wanted a solid foundation and having >a >company willing to help me grow in it helps. > >I am finding that the combination of programming and accounting is really a >good thing to have. > >Good luck, find a place to grow and work and study hard. I found that >actually using and applying Cold Fusion was better than any of the courses >I >took. I get the updated manuals, I have Ben Fortas 4.0 and a good SQL >manual. Also I use Goodmans Java script bible and pay close attention to >this list. I have found many valuable lessons on this list. It is >amazing >the stuff you can get and learn free. I have to admit that having Cold >Fusion here at work helps because I can see the results quickly, but you >can >learn a great deal even at CF web sites. Like someone else said, do a web >page showing your skills. THen base your resume on that. > > > > > Ellen Swartz wrote: > > > > > > Very interesting thread. > > > > > > I am not alone and it does not make me feel any better. > > > I have been struggling for the last 6 months between getting > > several part-time > > > jobs to make some $ and finding an entry level CF position or > > internship. I > > > got about 10 interviews with local companies that all ended the > > same way. > > > "Sorry, you don't have enough experience. Go home, work hard > > and contact us > > > again when you are ready." > > > > > > Let's face it. What company is going to hire an accountant with > > no experience > > > and barely any knowledge? > > > If CF was tought in college we would not be were we are now. We > > still would > > > not have the real life experience but we would have a lot more > > knowledge and > > > consequently a lot more chances to find an entry level CF job. > > > > > > I got to a point where I was wondering if I should pay a > > company to hire me > > > and give me some real life experience. I would work for freee > > if I was given > > > the opportunity (only on-site with a local company). It's > > either that (and I > > > agree I would be taken advantage of) or spent another year > > strugging learning > > > in 6 months at home what I would probably learn in a month > > working full time. > > > > > > Why don't we start something. > > > CF guru could teach one or twice a week and be paid for it. > > > Example: I live in Fort Lauderdale, FL. If an experience CF > > could give a class > > > to 10 CF beginners at least once a week and get paid by us (how > > much would > > > have to be determined) maybe we would learn faster and smarter. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jeff Houser > > AIM: Reboog711 | ICQ: 5246969 | Phone: 860-229-2781 > > -- > > DotComIt, LLC > > Computer Consultant specializing in database driven web data > > Lotus Notes/Domino, Cold Fusion > > -- > > Half of the Alternative Folk Acoustic Duo called Far Cry Fly > > http://www.farcryfly.com > > http://www.mp3.com/FarCryFly > > -- > > Does Everyone Think I'm a Cynical? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------ > > To Unsubscribe visit > > http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf >_jobs or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with >'unsubscribe' in the body. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-------------------- >Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=sts or send a >message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-------------------- >Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a >message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a >message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

