>stay away from mailsite! It's a major bitch keeping smammers out of it. we
>have it running on an NT box here
>and we have to fix it at least once a week because of spammers killing it
>with tons of mail.

Just curious: what can't mailsite do for anti-spam defense that 
sendmail can?  MAPS? ORBS? DNS validations?

If you want to stick with mailsite for its ODBC support, you can use 
IMGate (in my sig, it's free) to protect Mailiste and give this level 
of reject rate and daily traffic with a medium-powerd PC for the 
IMGate relay hub, from today's logs:

Grand Totals (13 Nov 2000)
------------
messages

   94746   received
   96975   delivered
       4   forwarded
     726   deferred  (6890  deferrals)
     828   bounced
   34676   rejected     <==== equals 36% of received!!

    1608m  bytes received
    1960m  bytes delivered
   34045   senders
    6983   sending hosts/domains
   25926   recipients
    3898   recipient hosts/domains


Per-Hour Traffic Summary
     time          received  delivered   deferred    bounced     rejected
     --------------------------------------------------------------------
     0000-0100        4578       4333        202         58       2247
     0100-0200        4463       4091        414         68       2503
     0200-0300        3909       3491        407         43       2436
     0300-0400        3678       3344        389         19       2060
     0400-0500        4146       3778        221         18       2276
     0500-0600        4420       4045        343         12       2471
     0600-0700        4015       3766        373         16       1979
     0700-0800        5045       4978        394         38       2050
     0800-0900        6792       7058        228         74       2410
     0900-1000        6970       7646        639         48       1778
     1000-1100        7854       8640        929         80       1964
     1100-1200        7211       7792        370         57       2001
     1200-1300        7613       8375        260         75       2220
     1300-1400        7784       8331        203         76       2252
     1400-1500        7364       7943        788         59       1882
     1500-1600        8003       8410        717         82       1849
     1600-1700         901        954         13          5        298
     1700-1800           0          0          0          0          0
     1800-1900           0          0          0          0          0
     1900-2000           0          0          0          0          0


There is another Imail/IMGate user who avg's a 50% reject rate every day.

Len < and did I mention IMGate's free? and a helluva lot easier to 
config than senmail. I give you the proven, canned config >

http://BIND8NT.MEIway.com: ISC BIND 8.2.2 p5 & 8.2.3 T6B for NT4 & W2K
http://IMGate.MEIway.com:  Build free, hi-perf, anti-spam mail gateways

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