>From the point of view of the small business sector and for-hire
consulting and design groups, I could see how someone might see cold
fusion and web design work as "code monkey" tasks.  

But, in your larger, more established IT departments, there are jobs you
can only hold with a dozen years of design experience and the ability to
work in/with large teams. For that matter, there are analyst and
architect level positions which allow companies to recognize the the
value of an experienced eye on a problem.  

Management is an entirely different job requiring minimal technical
expertise if you have the intelligence to hire and trust in the
strengths of the team you build.  Unfortuantely, former techies tend to
become poor managers for the very reason that they "know too much" about
the task at hand and often step in to micromanage a solution.  I don't
think it should come as a surprize that a good number of technical
people lack the interpersonal skills and "patience for politics" it
takes to succeed in management.  Moreover, many of these same people
know this about themselves and choose not to have direct reports.

In the end, what we all really "do" is provide solutions to problems.
Young developers tend to live on the bleeding edge of technology solving
every problem with an untested, new approach.  That's what I'd call a
"code monkey".  

Good fortune,
Richard Walters


-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 10:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: 2007 Web Design Survey

I happen to know some damn good programmers in their 40's and 50's who
are VERY content just being a code monkey. These guys have
degrees/experience and could get management positions, but they don't
want to. There is nothing wrong with being a worker bee all your life.

Bruce

Crow T. Robot wrote:
> I don't see it so much a goal as a natural progression in one's
career.
> Who wants to be a  50-60 year old code monkey?
>
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