Casey, Smack? I am not certain where you got the idea that I was writing 'smack'...
Do you disagree with me that ColdFusion offers an opportunity for people fresh into the web to get a lot out of their websites, very quickly? " I guess that could slow down your database but it's the SQL programmers fault, not ColdFusion.." Do you differentiate between a 'ColdFusion programmer' and a 'sql programmer'? Proof of what? Proof that PHP is a harder language to learn at first and ColdFusion is easier? Proof that Allaire/Macromedia/Adobe has created ColdFusion tags that handle most of the heavy lifting for the developer, and that most of the 'hard stuff' is left up to the programmer in PHP? Do you disagree that Tags like <cflogin>, allow a person who doesn't understand much about building a login system, to build a login system? Do you disagree that the <cfimage> tag allows the developer to get an image upload and auto-thumb system into their website mostly painlessly? Do you disagree that the <cfreport> tag allows the developer to focus on the UI rather than on the drudgery of building reports? Do you disagree that the <cfform> tag and its child tags allows the developer to focus on page generation rather than form validation through javascript? A little story for you: One day a young man shows up for the first day on the job as a logger. He is partnered up with a seasoned pro and begins learning the way to log. He is handed an axe and taught how to hold the axe and swing it to get the best cuts with using the least energy. As his skills progress he starts getting high of himself. He works hard and soon finds himself tired. His next swing almost cuts his toes off. The grizzled man who is his teacher tells him about how to keep his body hydrated and fed, and how to tell when he just needs to stop. Soon he is ready to move off on his own. He is working in the wood one day when his foreman hands him a saw and a partner. Together they must learn to saw the trees down, since it is faster and more productive. They must learn to work with each others rhythms and avoid bending the saw blades. Our young man is growing into a strong man, and soon his foreman hands him a chainsaw. Now he must learn to wield the new tool with ease. One day he notices the chainsaw running hotter than normal and narrowly escapes the chain as it breaks free from its groove and flys past his head making a hissing sound. Soon he learns to notice these things earlier and to rotate the chainsaws effectively, to keep them tuned and oiled. Soon the foreman comes to him and says goodbye to our seasoned logger. Our seasoned logger becomes the foreman himself and soon finds himself training a young man on how to use the newest tool of his trade a 5-ton logging machine. It has 2 tremendous chainsaw style blades, with protective sheaths. It has a cozy cabin for our new young man to sit in with lots of levers and controls. Soon the young man is wielding this new tool with great efficiency to the approving gaze of our foreman. One day the 5-ton logging machine stops working. The young man, who knows how to run the machine very well is perplexed. Asking our foreman, who is now a grizzled man himself, for advice, the foreman hands the young man a hand-held chainsaw, points to the trees and instructs him to cut the trees by hand until he can get the machine fixed. My point? Technology advances are not a bad thing, I revel in them and try to use as many as are pertinent to the work that I do. There is room for everyone in the forest. Just because I remember how to write a login script by hand, doesn't mean I don't use <cflogin> just as much as the next guy, but not all languages have a simple tag that does the heavy lifting for me. Just because the editor I use has a 'sql builder' doesn't mean that I trust it to be tuned for the environment that I am working in. So I benefit from having the knowledge of how to build a login script without it, and I benefit from know how to write sql by hand and not rely on a wysiwyg 'rendition' of what it should be. I apologize if this is long-winded. I got the inspiration about the logger story and just couldn't stop myself. William -- William E. Seiter Have you ever read a book that changed your life? Go to: www.winninginthemargins.com Enter passkey: goldengrove ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:291522 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
