This is very true Brian, I agree whole heartedly, However, in the past I've always found subversion a total pain in the arse to setup and configure, it's just very confusing. My guess is that this stems from the fact that it was seemingly developed with Linux in mind, with command lines and compiling binaries, if they made it a little more intuitive to people (I suspect a large number of new developers will opt for windows OS as its 'what they know'), instead of the linuxy style methods they've used, I'm sure it would be more widely adopted by less experienced developers.
It reminds me of the same reason why so many people pick up the bad habit of developing using access databases, it's simply because to a beginner developer they seem more accessible than a proper DBMS, As a novice developer trying to figure out installation and configuration of MySQL or SQL Server is quite confusing, especially when you have to setup management studio or phpMyAdmin, whereas the concept of a single file which can be easily created in a nice desktop based GUI is very simple to grasp, so most novice developers will start with access, especially considering all that functionality comes 'out of the box' with m$ office. I completely agree that source control through a proper SVN approach will pay dividends, but it's just one of those concepts that isn't A) Publicised to people properly, if you mention subversion to most amateur developers they would stare blankly back at you, however, ftp is very familiar. And. B) Accessible and simple enough to implement, even with these 'one touch' style solutions that subversion released for windows users. They're just my thoughts, Another quick gripe is with some of the guides and support documents I've read in the past, they're always typical Linux user style blog posts and forum remarks, showing a total lack of sympathy toward new and learning developers, making wide sweeping statements like 'and then simply update your system environment variables, and you're done!'... amateur users won't have a clue what you're on about, even someone whom is reasonably experienced with Linux development finds that stuff confusing. Heh, man I'm in a tired and grouchy mood today, can you tell? Lol Sorry for the rantish post chaps, Rob -----Original Message----- From: Brian Kotek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 October 2007 15:43 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: DEATH to HOMESITE I was going to say the same thing. This issue isn't really a case of Homesite vs. Eclipse, it's about always, always, always using source control. Always. On 10/19/07, Paul Vernon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > F*cking HomeSite+ wiped out my file on the server (AGAIN). I do a file > > write, it hangs, and I have to kill HomeSite. When I start homesite > > again, guess what, the file is gone from the server. > > Source control, Source control, Source control or to put it more > concisely, > SVN, SVN, SVN! > > There are some great Subversion plugins for CFEclipse :-) Subclipse is the > one I believe most of the CFEclipse users use... > > Paul > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:291659 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4

