I agree to a point, Claude... you're right that anything can
be overturned, but having a prior agreement is always good to have
on your side in court.

There would have to be gross negligence on a company's part to
have the prior legal agreement ignored.

I think everyone in our discussion is right, to a point.

And, btw, I have no connection to Zillow.com.  I just happened to
be on that site when the question about liability came up.

I will say that if I ever do get sued because passwords and usernames
were stolen from my company and I lost a case because someone's bank
account was drained because it used the same password and username,
I would absolutely start forcing my passwords on everyone.

To this point, I've had no problem.  And we all try to balance
user-friendliness and security.  But someone is always being bitten.
Everyone is just playing a game of Russian Roulette and hoping we're
not the one facing a round in the chamber.

Rick

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:36 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: SSL Necessary? Important?
> 
>  >>IN NO EVENT WILL ZILLOW.COM OR ANY SUPPLIER BE LIABLE FOR
> ANY DAMAGES
> 
> I'm sorry, but just from the very begining, this statement has
> absolutely no value.
> I hope you didn't pay a lawyer to write it.
> 
> Nobody can state, in advance on not that "he is not liable or responsible".
> ONLY a judge in court can make this decision, only based on facts.
> If you have been careless in an issue, EVEN if you warned the plaintiff that
> you are not liable, the judge can decide that you are responsible.
> 
> The only utility of such notice is may be 1. to make unaware customers
> believe they can't go to court,
> 2. to make them do their part about security.
> 




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