I agree to a point, Claude... you're right that anything can be overturned, but having a prior agreement is always good to have on your side in court.
There would have to be gross negligence on a company's part to have the prior legal agreement ignored. I think everyone in our discussion is right, to a point. And, btw, I have no connection to Zillow.com. I just happened to be on that site when the question about liability came up. I will say that if I ever do get sued because passwords and usernames were stolen from my company and I lost a case because someone's bank account was drained because it used the same password and username, I would absolutely start forcing my passwords on everyone. To this point, I've had no problem. And we all try to balance user-friendliness and security. But someone is always being bitten. Everyone is just playing a game of Russian Roulette and hoping we're not the one facing a round in the chamber. Rick > -----Original Message----- > From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:36 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: SSL Necessary? Important? > > >>IN NO EVENT WILL ZILLOW.COM OR ANY SUPPLIER BE LIABLE FOR > ANY DAMAGES > > I'm sorry, but just from the very begining, this statement has > absolutely no value. > I hope you didn't pay a lawyer to write it. > > Nobody can state, in advance on not that "he is not liable or responsible". > ONLY a judge in court can make this decision, only based on facts. > If you have been careless in an issue, EVEN if you warned the plaintiff that > you are not liable, the judge can decide that you are responsible. > > The only utility of such notice is may be 1. to make unaware customers > believe they can't go to court, > 2. to make them do their part about security. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297475 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4

