Depending on local laws, there are some things to which you simply
can't agree. For example, I can't agree that you can kill me and cook
me for dinner tonight - in most locations you are still going to be
charged with murder, no matter what agreements we had in place.

On Jan 26, 2008 5:40 AM, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I agree to a point, Claude... you're right that anything can
> be overturned, but having a prior agreement is always good to have
> on your side in court.
>
> There would have to be gross negligence on a company's part to
> have the prior legal agreement ignored.
>
> I think everyone in our discussion is right, to a point.
>
> And, btw, I have no connection to Zillow.com.  I just happened to
> be on that site when the question about liability came up.
>
> I will say that if I ever do get sued because passwords and usernames
> were stolen from my company and I lost a case because someone's bank
> account was drained because it used the same password and username,
> I would absolutely start forcing my passwords on everyone.
>
> To this point, I've had no problem.  And we all try to balance
> user-friendliness and security.  But someone is always being bitten.
> Everyone is just playing a game of Russian Roulette and hoping we're
> not the one facing a round in the chamber.
>
> Rick
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:36 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: SSL Necessary? Important?
> >
> >  >>IN NO EVENT WILL ZILLOW.COM OR ANY SUPPLIER BE LIABLE FOR
> > ANY DAMAGES
> >
> > I'm sorry, but just from the very begining, this statement has
> > absolutely no value.
> > I hope you didn't pay a lawyer to write it.
> >
> > Nobody can state, in advance on not that "he is not liable or responsible".
> > ONLY a judge in court can make this decision, only based on facts.
> > If you have been careless in an issue, EVEN if you warned the plaintiff that
> > you are not liable, the judge can decide that you are responsible.
> >
> > The only utility of such notice is may be 1. to make unaware customers
> > believe they can't go to court,
> > 2. to make them do their part about security.
> >
>
>
>
>
> 

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