Just to clarify Russ,

You still have a (JRun) cluster,
even though you are connecting directly to a CF instance?


On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 1:47 AM, Russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I can't speak for what is the best solution, but we've had fairly good
> experiences using my custom Apache connector that connects to only a single
> cluster instance, and having 2 front end Apache servers (which are load
> balanced using a hardware load balancer) and 2 backend Apache/CF servers
> which are also load balanced using the same hardware load balancer.  The
> image requests get served by the front end servers, and the CF requests get
> forwarded to the backend servers through the load balancer.  If an instance
> is offline, it gets taken offline by the load balancer and requests are no
> longer sent to it until it comes back up.
>
> I had to modify the Apache connector a bit to make this work.  I basically
> added a new config command which restricts which instances it's allowed to
> connect to.
>
> Russ
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AJ Mercer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:58 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: load balancing / failover
> >
> > So if money was not object, what would be the perfect set up for a
> > ColdFusion Environment?
> >
> >
> > Do other vendor's provide a better J2EE server that has better clustering
> > that JRun?
> >
> > When it comes to connecting to the JRun (CF) cluster, does IIS work
> > differently than Apache?
> > (for clustering) is one better than the other?
> >
> >
> > For what we have been experiencing (IIS [separate server] | CF702/JRun 4
> > updater 7 [2 servers, 2 instances each]; recently JVM1.5),
> > it seems to me that there is too much dependence between IIS and
> > individual
> > CF instances.
> >  - at times, if one instance does off line, the whole site goes down.
> >  - if an instance is off-line when IIS comes up, it is not added to the
> > cluster when it comes back on-line
> >  - IIS needs to be restarted if there is a change in the cluster
> >
> > Has any one noticed any improvements in clustering in CF8?
> >
> > Updater 7 for JRun was meant to have clustering fixes, but we have not
> > noticed it :-(
> >
> > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:06 AM, Russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > Russ, I think Rick already basically answered the question of why he
> > > > isn't using something more advanced when he said "I don't have a
> setup
> > > > that warrants having multiple physical servers and a hardware load
> > > > balancer".  Even LVS would not only require him to use Linux, but
> have
> > > > an additional physical server to control the load balancing.
> > > >
> > > Sorry I wasn't following the thread closely.  Having two instances on
> > the
> > > same server won't provide a huge amount of redundancy, but if he wants
> > to
> > > run everything on the same server, there's again either a shared
> > hardware
> > > loadbalancer which can be had fairly cheap at a place like HMS, or set
> > up
> > > LVS or something in VMWare on the same box.  If he's already on Linux,
> > he
> > > can probably even use the same box.
> > >
> > > I believe Apache also has some rudimentary load balancing built in, but
> > it
> > > probably wouldn't work for this.
> > >
> > > Russ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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