Yes, we have a cluster, but the patch I made to mod_jrun stops it from
connecting to other instances of the cluster.  This lets us do external
loadbalancing, while still having session replication. 

Russ

> -----Original Message-----
> From: AJ Mercer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:28 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: load balancing / failover
> 
> Just to clarify Russ,
> 
> You still have a (JRun) cluster,
> even though you are connecting directly to a CF instance?
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 1:47 AM, Russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I can't speak for what is the best solution, but we've had fairly good
> > experiences using my custom Apache connector that connects to only a
> single
> > cluster instance, and having 2 front end Apache servers (which are load
> > balanced using a hardware load balancer) and 2 backend Apache/CF servers
> > which are also load balanced using the same hardware load balancer.  The
> > image requests get served by the front end servers, and the CF requests
> get
> > forwarded to the backend servers through the load balancer.  If an
> instance
> > is offline, it gets taken offline by the load balancer and requests are
> no
> > longer sent to it until it comes back up.
> >
> > I had to modify the Apache connector a bit to make this work.  I
> basically
> > added a new config command which restricts which instances it's allowed
> to
> > connect to.
> >
> > Russ
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: AJ Mercer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:58 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: load balancing / failover
> > >
> > > So if money was not object, what would be the perfect set up for a
> > > ColdFusion Environment?
> > >
> > >
> > > Do other vendor's provide a better J2EE server that has better
> clustering
> > > that JRun?
> > >
> > > When it comes to connecting to the JRun (CF) cluster, does IIS work
> > > differently than Apache?
> > > (for clustering) is one better than the other?
> > >
> > >
> > > For what we have been experiencing (IIS [separate server] | CF702/JRun
> 4
> > > updater 7 [2 servers, 2 instances each]; recently JVM1.5),
> > > it seems to me that there is too much dependence between IIS and
> > > individual
> > > CF instances.
> > >  - at times, if one instance does off line, the whole site goes down.
> > >  - if an instance is off-line when IIS comes up, it is not added to
> the
> > > cluster when it comes back on-line
> > >  - IIS needs to be restarted if there is a change in the cluster
> > >
> > > Has any one noticed any improvements in clustering in CF8?
> > >
> > > Updater 7 for JRun was meant to have clustering fixes, but we have not
> > > noticed it :-(
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:06 AM, Russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Russ, I think Rick already basically answered the question of why
> he
> > > > > isn't using something more advanced when he said "I don't have a
> > setup
> > > > > that warrants having multiple physical servers and a hardware load
> > > > > balancer".  Even LVS would not only require him to use Linux, but
> > have
> > > > > an additional physical server to control the load balancing.
> > > > >
> > > > Sorry I wasn't following the thread closely.  Having two instances
> on
> > > the
> > > > same server won't provide a huge amount of redundancy, but if he
> wants
> > > to
> > > > run everything on the same server, there's again either a shared
> > > hardware
> > > > loadbalancer which can be had fairly cheap at a place like HMS, or
> set
> > > up
> > > > LVS or something in VMWare on the same box.  If he's already on
> Linux,
> > > he
> > > > can probably even use the same box.
> > > >
> > > > I believe Apache also has some rudimentary load balancing built in,
> but
> > > it
> > > > probably wouldn't work for this.
> > > >
> > > > Russ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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