Then the better option would be to just not reply instead of giving the
impression that the list is not friendly to people who ask questions.

Eric

/*-----Original Message-----
/*From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
/*Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 1:43 PM
/*To: CF-Talk
/*Subject: Re: do not increase counter is returns 0
/*
/*On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Katrina Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
/*wrote:
/*> I haven't been a member of this list for a few years now, but I remember
/*it being a place where even the most beginning person could come for
/*advice.  This is a community and not a place for you to show how much more
/*you know than the next guy.
/*> I really don't think this response is appropriate and I'm sure that most
/*of the community feels the same way.  How about next time instead of
/*saying "You're an idiot," you either give some good advice or don't
/*respond?  That way there's no "waste of everyone else's time" reading
/*posts that aren't helpful.  You might also find that you'll get better
/*responses to any questions you have if you're nice.
/*> *Down off my soap box now*
/*
/*ok so this is just my $0.02...
/*
/*It's not unreasonable to expect that when somebody asks for help (asks
/*for you to give up your own time) that they've already made
/**reasonable* efforts to solve the problem on their own.  The "How To
/*Ask Questions The Smart Way" page
/*(http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html) is pretty well
/*known for illustrating... well, how to ask questions the smart way.
/*
/*That being said, the person in question has posted numerous times to
/*this list and his questions never seem to indicate that he's even put
/*forth the smallest amount of effort to learn how to do what needs
/*doing.  In Brian's defense, he (Brian) has responded to questions
/*posed by Erik numerous times in what I considered to be a fairly
/*courteous manner.  He's pointed out the link that I referenced above,
/*he's tried to teach Erik how to figure things out on his own.  When
/*you've been doing this for a while (answering questions on mailing
/*lists), you get a sense for who is genuinely making an effort and who
/*is just looking for a quick answer.  When it's the latter, you're
/*hesitant to provide that quick answer because you *know* that person
/*will just keep coming back for the quick answer, expecting others to
/*spend their time answering his/her question.
/*
/*Brian's advice (again, IMHO) *has* been good.  Very good.  Assuming
/*that the person actually has an interest in learning.
/*
/*I like to believe the purpose of lists like this is to teach people.
/*Not to answer questions for (e.g. do the work for) people who don't
/*want to learn.
/*
/*/me passes the soapbox to the next person in line.
/*
/*
/*--
/*A byte walks into a bar and orders a pint. Bartender asks him "What's
/*wrong?" Byte says "Parity error." Bartender nods and says "Yeah, I
/*thought you looked a bit off."
/*
/*

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