Thank you, Charlie. Yes, as you point out, I have tried over and over to explain things to Erik as well as reiterate that what he asks about are things that would be explained in the first few chapters of any book (or even website tutorial) on the subject. Instead, he absolutely refuses to try to learn himself and instead keeps on asking questions. Why? Because people keep answering them. I'm trying to help him AND the list because the current situation is harming both. But to be honest, the fact that Mr. Roberts misses the point completely and resorts to the very ad hominid attacks he condemns is not shocking in the slightest.
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ok so this is just my $0.02... > > It's not unreasonable to expect that when somebody asks for help (asks > for you to give up your own time) that they've already made > *reasonable* efforts to solve the problem on their own. The "How To > Ask Questions The Smart Way" page > (http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html<http://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/smart-questions.html>) > is pretty well > known for illustrating... well, how to ask questions the smart way. > > That being said, the person in question has posted numerous times to > this list and his questions never seem to indicate that he's even put > forth the smallest amount of effort to learn how to do what needs > doing. In Brian's defense, he (Brian) has responded to questions > posed by Erik numerous times in what I considered to be a fairly > courteous manner. He's pointed out the link that I referenced above, > he's tried to teach Erik how to figure things out on his own. When > you've been doing this for a while (answering questions on mailing > lists), you get a sense for who is genuinely making an effort and who > is just looking for a quick answer. When it's the latter, you're > hesitant to provide that quick answer because you *know* that person > will just keep coming back for the quick answer, expecting others to > spend their time answering his/her question. > > Brian's advice (again, IMHO) *has* been good. Very good. Assuming > that the person actually has an interest in learning. > > I like to believe the purpose of lists like this is to teach people. > Not to answer questions for (e.g. do the work for) people who don't > want to learn. > > /me passes the soapbox to the next person in line. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:306744 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
