>>Hibernate into the next version of CF. This is probably good too.

More like amazing. Hybernate automatically creates all the objects to
abstract your database. Like a code generator. Do you know how much time
this will shave off development? Even with coded generators a bulk of the
work I do is talking to the database.

This is some code I lifted off of Ray Camden's site

<cfcomponent orm="true" datasource="cfartgallery">

</cfcomponent>

<cfscript>
hibernate = request.getORMSession(;
artist = createObject("component", "com.etc").init();
artist.setFirstName("Ben");
artist.setLastName("Forta")
artist = hibernate.save(artist)....
 </cfscript>

Looks like transfer.

Now if I could do something like this I would be beside myself with joy.

artist = createObject("component", "com.etc").init("artists");
artist = hibernate.save(artist, ArgumentCollection=form);

THAT would be awesome.


>> Someone mentioned it made Hibernate XML - how is this of help ?

I would imagine that it would automatically define the mappings to Hibernate
XML for an entire database. Like Illudium does for transfer.

G


On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Tom Chiverton <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wednesday 18 Jun 2008, Matt Williams wrote:
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> http://www.pbell.com/index.cfm/2008/6/18/The-Future-of-ColdFusion-Adobes-
> > >CF-United-Keynote
> >
> > I think the free for academic use is a great idea. According to Ray's
> > blog it is to solve this: "Biggest problem is lack of available
> > developers."
>
> But the lead time here is *huge*, and of course there are still plenty of
> alternative, free, web development languages to choose to teach - and of
> course the pretending-to-be-free like Silverlight.
>
> > Also on Ray's blog he said Adam Lehman announced integration of
> > Hibernate into the next version of CF. This is probably good too.
>
> Depends how it works in practice.
> Does
> <cfcomponent type="orm" dsn="foo" table="bar"/>
> make a DAO ? Active record ? All of them ? In what package structure ?
> Someone mentioned it made Hibernate XML - how is this of help ?
>
> > shop owner. They were primarily a CF shop but have decided to do all
> > new development with Ruby on Rails. I'm only vaguely familiar with
> > Rails. What is so attractive about Rails that they would do this?
>
> I have no idea, now CF is free (Railo/OpenBD), esp. given the time it'll
> take
> to retrain and retool.
>
> > And what does Adobe / the CF community need to do to step it up?
>
> Make noise :-)
> Adobe now have a EMEA sales contact, which should really, really help in
> business - but the rest of us can make sure no one ever writes a
> 'ColdFusion
> is dead' article ever again.
>
> --
> Tom Chiverton
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