On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> They're rebranding and reorganizing from scratch. It's driven by the
> Marketing
> folks and they want my feedback on what we should use, but the angencies
> talk
> about that there's more, less expensive developers out there with these
> other
> technologies.  They're just trying to sell what their staff knows so they
> can
> land the account.  I need a list of reputable agencies that use CF and not
> just
> a CF development house.
>
>
Our company went through a new CIO & CTO, both were very skeptical of
ColdFusion coming in. After working with them showing some of the apps and
the time it took to produce they began to see the value. It also helps that
hey respect me as an individual and see me as technology fan not just a
ColdFusion bigot. Regardless, I clearly explained and went through the real
cost savings the came from what ColdFusion offered us. I did not focus on
CFML or the general CF faster RAD etc talk. I focused on real world examples
of how we leveraged ColdFusion internally to save money or develope more
application in paralell. I focused in on exact platform features we didn't
need to build and maintain ourselves like JMS integrations, file
manipulation, charting and webservices. As a side note since I love pimpin
the OS side of CFML if you are worried about cost and not utilizing the
platform, checking out alternative CFML engines like Open BlueDragon or
Railo might be an option.

As for reputable agencies, Kroger and Hasbro come to mind as well as GE and
Bank of America (though if I recall they really don't do greenfield
development with CFML). Not to mention, seemingly, every branch of the
government; you could look through all the different gov't agencies that use
ColdFusion as well. Ping me off list if you want to talk more about what
I've done in Kroger to help CF flurish, heck I'd even be happy to take some
personal time and talk with executives there if they want to talk to other
companies using CFML. Really at the end of the day in simple terms I
evangilised,  spoke up and showed I was proud of platform I use and I did so
confidently without hesitation. So many times I see folks so proud to be a
CF developer but then around others like Java devs or CIO types they cower
in a corner overshadowed by thier "superiors." Bah I say stand up and be
proud ColdFusion is a great platform, CFML is a great language . Oh and if
all else fails Kroger is hiring send me a resume (seriosuly anyone
interested send me a resume, Mid-Senior preferably) ;)

Adam!


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