Neb,

Brian's right on target, as usual, with the technical recommendations! It's 
been my experience that the biggest challenge in changing a process is 
cultural. Many folks simply do not want to change. However, you may be in an 
environment that is "ready" and switching to an agile approach may be exactly 
what everyone wants and needs. I hope it goes well!

If you want some real world TDD/refactoring examples, there's a few at 
http://mxunit.org/blog and also check out the recent presentations: 
http://mxunit.org/doc/index.cfm#cfmeetup

You might also want to join the mxunit google group 
(http://groups.google.com/group/mxunit). It's almost by default that most of 
the folks there are following some sort of agile and TDD methods ... 

best,
bill



> Hello all,
> 
> I've just started work at a company that is in the middle of moving to 
> an agile development process who use coldfusion, javascript and pl/sql. 
> 
> 
> I have a couple of questions where you hopefully will be able to point 
> me in the right direction ...
> 
> Given that most agile texts are geared towards object oriented 
> development and that there are unit testing frameworks for coldfusion 
> and pl/sql, how do developers approach agile techniques in an 
> environment with mostly procedural code? 
> 
> Where are there examples of realistic unit tests and refactoring in 
> coldfusion (or pl/sql)? Does anyone really do this? 'Toad' doesn't 
> have an 'extract method' function ...
> 
> How do you, at a code level, seperate ui from domain logic in an 
> environment like this?
> 
> How does domain driven design fit in here?
> 
> Thanks for taking the time to read this and forgive me if I've asked 
> in the wrong list, 
> 
> Neb. 


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