I started not to use the rape analogy and certainly didn't want to trivialize something so terrible, but thought it appropriate, especially since someone had brought it up as an analogy previously.
Please don't take offense, anyone. Know that I have a daughter and I tell her all the time not to put herself by action or location in a situation to be vulnerable to such an attack. And while I would gently remind her at some point if she were out somewhere she shouldn't have been, I would probably just have to kill her rapist...seriously. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 11:24 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: SQL injection attack on House of Fusion > > Rick, > > While your argument is well put, perhaps we could choose a slightly less > inflammatory analogy than rape. We have a large group here and I wouldn't > want anyone to be incensed by trivializing such a traumatic event (although > obviously that is not the intent). > > -Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 9:45 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: SQL injection attack on House of Fusion > > This would probably be more productively viewed as as "responsibility" > issue, rather than blame. > > Both parties, webmaster and attacker, bear responsibility for the status of > the server/data/etc. > > A negligent server/website admin bears a certain amount of responsibility > for the situation. The attacker also bears responsibility for the > consequences of the attack. > > A court of law might hold only the attacker ultimately responsible. > However, the supervisor of a negligent server/website administrator would > view it as shared responsibility between the attacker and the attacked, as > in, "Why wasn't the server/website protected in the first place?" > > Viewing this as a rape case, if a girl was hanging out on a street corner > and asking passers-by to rape her, then, yes, she bears some responsibility > for putting herself in that situation. It doesn't mean the one who rapes > her doesn't bear the greater responsibility for the situation, and, > therefore, punishment, but a fair judge would have to ask the girl why was > she asking passers-by to rape her in the first place. > > Girls should reasonably avoid provoking rapists, and rapists should resist > their impulses. > > Likewise, server/website admins should reasonably protect their servers and > websites, but hackers should avoid their impulses or share responsibility > for the situation. > > Rick > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310726 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4

